On the chopping block: AAP Centers

[Anonymous]

Really? Weren't they just going through a huge process to open more centers at the MS level? This would seem counter-productive to me...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

Completely agree. And my stomach turns reading threads such as, "Are all AAP Centers (and LLIV) created equal?". Honestly, who the hell cares if "all AAP centers or LLIV are created equal," when the General Ed students are being ignored in favor of making sure AAP kids "find their peer group"?

I am beyond sick of FCPS catering to AAP kids and parents; providing centers and free transportation to them, not to mention the choice of whether to attend a center or stay in their LLIV program in the first place. Enough with giving one group of students choices that the other group of students simply doesn't get. (And for the purpose of this discussion, language immersion is not a comparable choice, so no need to pretend it is.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

School?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

LA


School?

[Anonymous]

But wouldn't eliminating aap centers mean redistricting, and wouldn't hat come at a cost? I don't like the centers, but I don't think elimination of them would save money. Our base school is packed to the gills. Breezeways and hallways are used for storing computer equipment. Really! In addition to The modular classroom building, we have trailers. If the center kids came back, how would their numbers be absorbed? Pull outs happen in hallways too. It is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But wouldn't eliminating aap centers mean redistricting, and wouldn't hat come at a cost? I don't like the centers, but I don't think elimination of them would save money. Our base school is packed to the gills. Breezeways and hallways are used for storing computer equipment. Really! In addition to The modular classroom building, we have trailers. If the center kids came back, how would their numbers be absorbed? Pull outs happen in hallways too. It is ridiculous.

Almost all schools have trailers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

LA


School?

Are you saying this happened at Louise Archer? That is different than the school my DD finished at. She had numerous friends in both programs (LA is our base). If it is happening, go to the principal. She is responsive to bullying issues (we had one that was a kid teasing my DD about my cancer).

[Anonymous]

They all add trailers to the trailers (modular) they already have? Even sadder! They all store equipment in hallways too? Pathetic.

So, it makes no sense to close the aap centers if they cannot accommodate the kids already in the base schools without incurring additional costs of expanding the number of trailers and redistricting. Not going to happen unfortunately. But then again ... they might see more attrition if they close the centers. Hmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

Completely agree. And my stomach turns reading threads such as, "Are all AAP Centers (and LLIV) created equal?". Honestly, who the hell cares if "all AAP centers or LLIV are created equal," when the General Ed students are being ignored in favor of making sure AAP kids "find their peer group"?

I am beyond sick of FCPS catering to AAP kids and parents; providing centers and free transportation to them, not to mention the choice of whether to attend a center or stay in their LLIV program in the first place. Enough with giving one group of students choices that the other group of students simply doesn't get. (And for the purpose of this discussion, language immersion is not a comparable choice, so no need to pretend it is.)

Great point! Probably makes sense to get rid of LLIV at many schools.

[Anonymous]

This is just one item on a list of everything that is "on the table" for discussion. There are a bunch of other things on the list that the school board would never cut, so I wouldn't be too concerned about this being cut. They might change the way they deliver services, but that would take more than one budget cycle to implement, and at this late date (for the next budget cycle) since there's no plan in place already (and none in the works that has been publicized) it's unlikely that there's a massive change to the way FCPS delivers it's AAP program. In addition, shifting all of the AAP students back to their base schools would create some severe overcrowding at some schools and significant under enrollment at others. This is a much larger discussion if they do want to make a change to the program or their delivery of AA services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They all add trailers to the trailers (modular) they already have? Even sadder! They all store equipment in hallways too? Pathetic.

So, it makes no sense to close the aap centers if they cannot accommodate the kids already in the base schools without incurring additional costs of expanding the number of trailers and redistricting. Not going to happen unfortunately. But then again ... they might see more attrition if they close the centers. Hmm.

They don't have to purchase more trailers. It is the same number of kids. The trailers just move from the Center School to the base schools. There will be surplus trailers from moves like Longfellow to Cooper. So there will be some wiggle room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

You poor thing. You are carrying around an awful lot of baggage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just one item on a list of everything that is "on the table" for discussion. There are a bunch of other things on the list that the school board would never cut, so I wouldn't be too concerned about this being cut. They might change the way they deliver services, but that would take more than one budget cycle to implement, and at this late date (for the next budget cycle) since there's no plan in place already (and none in the works that has been publicized) it's unlikely that there's a massive change to the way FCPS delivers it's AAP program. In addition, shifting all of the AAP students back to their base schools would create some severe overcrowding at some schools and significant under enrollment at others. This is a much larger discussion if they do want to make a change to the program or their delivery of AA services.

Agree, it's not going to happen any time soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

You poor thing. You are carrying around an awful lot of baggage.

no baggage, just observing and stating the facts.

It feels almost subversive to say all this, but there's a palpable tension there with parents' outsized egos being conveyed to their supposedly superior children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. It's about time. It's a tremendous waste of money and resources.

"Base kid" is a common taunt at our center school.

The AAP students are so segregated and operate in their own rarefied air beginning as young as third grade.

Very much an "us v. them" mentality fueled by hyper-competitive parents.

Enough!

The ugly reality is that FCPS is back to ersatz segregation, with the "elites" getting preferential treatment and in some center schools, "base kids" are the minority.

Interesting to note that some of the FCPS center schools HAD to become centers to avoid permanent closure.

You poor thing. You are carrying around an awful lot of baggage.

no baggage, just observing and stating the facts.

It feels almost subversive to say all this, but there's a palpable tension there with parents' outsized egos being conveyed to their supposedly superior children.

So glad this is not the case at our Center school. But we are not at Greenbriar W or Haycock.