DCPS Comes in dead last as the worst school system in America

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

[Anonymous]

OP--you're pretty lame for starting this thread. As someone has pointed out, there's a huge difference between a WHOLE STATE vs. a 47,000 student school district that represents one urban jurisdiction. Compare DCPS vs. Baltimore public schools, Boston, New Orleans, Detroit, NYC, Chicago, Pittsburg......you get the idea. Then you'll have a better idea. And IN FACT that is what is used--the NAEP TUDA study run by the Federal gov't. Look it up please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

They tolerate intolerance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

Yeah. Definitely not many guns in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

They tolerate intolerance.

And generally: longer commutes, less public transport, longer drives to resources like groceries etc, fewer cultural resources, fewer restaurants, less walkability...to name a few

[Anonymous]

Not really a fair comparison--DC is the most urban "state" in the country. It is more meaningful to compare DC with other major city school systems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

They tolerate intolerance.

It is intolerant of you to assume anyone not living in a city is intolerant.

[Anonymous]

It really gets old to have to say the same thing over and over. When ranked with other urban school systems, DC is around the national average. NAEP’s 2013 ranking of 4th grade reading scores for urban school systems showed that DC scored worse than NYC, Atlanta, and Boston, but better than Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Dallas, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Fresno, Cleveland, and Detroit. The rankings also showed that DC's high SES students outscore the rest of the nation and that DC's overall concentration of high-scoring students is above the national average. 8 percent of DC students have advanced reading scores, compared to only 7 percent for NYC and 6 percent for Boston. Indeed, DC’s percentage of advanced scoring students put it in the same company with some of the highest scoring urban school systems in the country, including Hillsborough County FL (10 percent), San Diego (8 percent), Austin, Texas (11 percent), and Charlotte NC (11 percent). http://www.nationsreportcard.gov/reading_math_tuda_2013/#/tuda-performance

People really need to ignore this false advertising slogan about DC as “the worst school system in the county”. Again and again, DC gets inappropriately ranked “51st” among states – when it’s idiotic to compare one single school system to 50 averages of scores of school systems (plural) in other states. This not only matches up two entirely different data sets, but allows every other urban school system in the country the unfair advantage of hiding behind the artificially high test scores of rural and affluent suburban school systems. The closest measure of DC “as a state” would involve lumping it in with MD or VA, which would put DC somewhere between 3rd (Maryland’s ranking) and 7th (Virginia’s ranking). But how useful is that comparison, really?

[Anonymous]

The OP must be one of those online retailers who have a drop down menu for "states" and either 1.)fails to offer DC as a choice or 2.) puts it as the bottom of the list as "Washington, DC."

We are just so darn confusing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

They tolerate intolerance.

And generally: longer commutes, less public transport, longer drives to resources like groceries etc, fewer cultural resources, fewer restaurants, less walkability...to name a few

Longer drives to groceries? Hahaha, DC is just now leaving its food desert phase. And many parts of SE and NE have a bodego for 'groceries' and that's it. Suburbarn grocery shopping is way way better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

Like good customer service? Yards? Super Target? I don't get it...

[Anonymous]

This so called "study" was released by Wallet Hub in August 2014 -- way to breathe new life into a 10-month old misleading web article, OP.

[Anonymous]

As pointed out above, the NAEP TUDA results demonstrate the whites and non-low income students do quite well in te DCPS system. Other data summaries which commingle DCPS and DCPCS results paint an erroneously pessimistic picture.