Expunging HS grades from middle school: what's the cut-off point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges do see high school courses that were taken in middle school. I have seen the transcripts sent to colleges for my kids and they have included Honors Algebra I, Honors Geometry, and their world language. They are also included in the cumulative GPA, unless a parent requests that they be expunged within the time limit.

Sorry, meant to say that those courses were taken in middle school and still included in the high school transcript sent to colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges do see high school courses that were taken in middle school. I have seen the transcripts sent to colleges for my kids and they have included Honors Algebra I, Honors Geometry, and their world language. They are also included in the cumulative GPA, unless a parent requests that they be expunged within the time limit.

Sorry, meant to say that those courses were taken in middle school and still included in the high school transcript sent to colleges.

So even if they are expunged they are on the transcript but not factored into the cumulative GPA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges do see high school courses that were taken in middle school. I have seen the transcripts sent to colleges for my kids and they have included Honors Algebra I, Honors Geometry, and their world language. They are also included in the cumulative GPA, unless a parent requests that they be expunged within the time limit.

Sorry, meant to say that those courses were taken in middle school and still included in the high school transcript sent to colleges.

So even if they are expunged they are on the transcript but not factored into the cumulative GPA?

No, they are not on the transcript if they are expunged prior to enrollment in HS. The college does know when the student took them and if the C or whatever is in 7th or 8th grade - it does not count as much as if the grade was in junior year or senior year. They will see 4 or so years of grades after it and weigh the old grade accordingly.

The main reason I would suggest expunging a grade for a student in MS is if you think he/she needs to take it again to make sure his/her foundation in that subject is solid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges do see high school courses that were taken in middle school. I have seen the transcripts sent to colleges for my kids and they have included Honors Algebra I, Honors Geometry, and their world language. They are also included in the cumulative GPA, unless a parent requests that they be expunged within the time limit.

Sorry, meant to say that those courses were taken in middle school and still included in the high school transcript sent to colleges.

So even if they are expunged they are on the transcript but not factored into the cumulative GPA?

No, they are not on the transcript if they are expunged prior to enrollment in HS. If you choose not to expunge, the college does know when the student took the class and if the C or whatever is in 7th or 8th grade - it does not count as much as if the grade was in junior year or senior year. They will see 4 or so years of grades after it and weigh the old grade accordingly.

The main reason I would suggest expunging a grade for a student in MS is if you think he/she needs to take it again to make sure his/her foundation in that subject is solid.

Sorry, I missed a phrase in my head. See above for edit.

[Anonymous]

Yes they see HS courses taken in MS only if not expunged. If expunged, there's no record.

[Anonymous]

Expunge. At least in Arlington you can bring it back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Expunge. At least in Arlington you can bring it back.

In FCPS, once expunged, a course cannot be reinstated. 

[Anonymous]

OP, have you asked this question of the student services office at your child's school? If not, I would schedule an in-person talk right away with the appropriate academic counselor there -- it might be your child's assigned counselor or another person in that office who handles these kinds of academic questions.

They have seen it all and heard it all so this won't be a new question for them. They can give you a bigger picture about how expunging an MS grade will, or won't, affect your child's track of courses in the upcoming years (for instance, how it would affect the progression of classes if that class has to be retaken). We can't sit down with you and look at your child's expected courses for next year and beyond and assess how this one expunged class will affect that.

Regarding the example you use, it seems to me that expunging a B or higher is a risk that could put a lot of pressure on a kid who already did well (yes, a B is doing well) in a challenging course. Expunging a B or B+, for instance, seems to assume that the student will do better than that next time, and there's no guarantee of that happening.

Anyone looking at the transcript is going to know that this student took this HS-level course in MS and did well in it at a younger than usual age. That does count for something. Ask the student services counselor about it.