Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?

[Anonymous]

UCLA out of state acceptance rate is 26.2% so still selective and USC has a large FA budget at $285 million. It also receives 50,000 applications. So if B students from Big 3/5 schools can get into these schools that's impressive. Same goes for Carleton, Hamilton and Colby which have acceptance rates around 25%. The A/B kids going to Bowdoin and Pomona type schools is also pretty interesting. Those schools have below 20% acceptance rates. Some may even be below 15%. William and Mary is a good school as well, but even VA public school kids have to have high GPAs to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.

A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.

A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.

B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.

B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)

List seems right. Three kids at big 3 private schools. First two are B/C students and went to Oberlin and Cornell(recruited athlete). Last is A/B student (also recruited athlete and is going to Columbia

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Anonymous wrote:Yes -- Lehigh for an engineering student is very strong.

Also for finance, plus finance / acct and business. They have lots of interesting integrated programs through the different colleges. Lehigh is very practical wrt career guidance and planning. Great for consulting, Wall Street, engineering, and combined medical school program with Hahnemann. Strong Lehigh graduates end up at their choice of grad schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.

A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.

A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.

B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.

B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)

I would put certain Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Amherst and William in the uppermost hard to get into tier. Also move Carleton into the A/B category. Not sure about UCLA in the AB category and GW and Villanova in the indie school B category (BTW where are Georgetown and Wesleyan ?) and would move Kenyon and Trinity up a notch.

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Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.

A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.

A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.

B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.

B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)

Wow! It's very impressive to me that a kid with a GPA in the 3.0-3.3 range would get into BC, Carleton, etc.

I think it would be very tough to get into Carleton on that

[Anonymous]

UT Austin is not for B students if recent past acceptances are taken into account. I know a solid C student who is now attending.

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Anonymous wrote:Carleton

DD is an A/B student and no way in hell would she get into Carleton.

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At schools like Carleton, NESCACs, William and Mary, Claremonts and the like, some more marginal private school kids get in because they apply ED. The counselors who are smart encourage them to do so. If they were in RD pool, they may get waitlisted. Also PP I wouldn't rule out Carleton for your DD depending on her GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.

A + --A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.

A-- Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.

A/B --student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.

B/B -- student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)

I think all of this needs to be bumped up one. who even gest Bs anymore?

[Anonymous]

Do schools even give Cs anymore? I think at a certain point when the kids fall under an acceptable average, schools can just kick them out. Private schools can do that.

Interesting anecdote, a DC at a non-Big 3 school admittedly had a class mate with two or three Fs on the transcript got into Syracuse. While not the most selective school, I was pretty shocked because it s not a bad school. If this kid was coming from public school even a W, I wonder if this would have gotten in.

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools even give Cs anymore? I think at a certain point when the kids fall under an acceptable average, schools can just kick them out. Private schools can do that.

Interesting anecdote, a DC at a non-Big 3 school admittedly had a class mate with two or three Fs on the transcript got into Syracuse. While not the most selective school, I was pretty shocked because it s not a bad school. If this kid was coming from public school even a W, I wonder if this would have gotten in.

Sidwell Friemds teachers give out a lot of C's, including to juniors.

[Anonymous]

If they give Cs, isn't that going affect college admission. There's a fine line between rigor and ruining college chances.

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Anonymous wrote:If they give Cs, isn't that going affect college admission. There's a fine line between rigor and ruining college chances.

If a teacher is giving out a C, they are also handing out A,B,D, and F. Criteria for each grade is clearly stated. Do the work. You get the grade you work represents. The teacher is not ruining college chances.

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Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.

A + --A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.

A-- Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.

A/B --student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.

B/B -- student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)

I think all of this needs to be bumped up one. who even gest Bs anymore?

Students at the top independent schools get Bs. I know that may be surprising to many parents whose kids are in the public schools, but that's the reality. It doesn't mean the private schools are "better", either in general or for any particular student, but grading is more stringent. BTW, my A/B student went to Chicago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.

A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.

A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.

B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.

B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)

Sounds about right to me although I'd put a couple of your Bs in a B+ category. One of my DCs was a B/C (but with good scores) and goes to one on your list and accepted at a couple of others. There's also some nuance there though.

Probably true, but only if you assume that DC exhibits absolutely zero need for Financial Aid, period. Any possibility of asking for aid vanishes any potential advantage, except for the tiny handful of truly need-blind universities.