Who got into UMCP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think UMD's admission rate for the class of 2015 is 40%, down from 47% last year. UVA's admit rate is around 30 but it's much smaller school and can be more selective. UMD is a typical state school that needs to serve a wide range of kids - it's 2x size of UVA. SAT mid 50% for UVA and UMD is very close for CR adn M.

Is this official - the 40% admission rate for 2015? I've heard people say they were very surprised their child did not get in this year and wondered if UMD is getting tougher to get into.

[Anonymous]

And, to be more genuine, those Lady Terp b-ball players, who rock.

I'd add, though, that we at UMD love out of staters and int'l students who pay full fare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, to be more genuine, those Lady Terp b-ball players, who rock.

I'd add, though, that we at UMD love out of staters and int'l students who pay full fare.

Honestly that's what UMD needs to do - attract more out of staters. Not just for the money but to make it a little less parochial and hopefully up the stats. The out of state kids are what makes the difference at schools like UVA and Michigan. The admissions stats for the out of staters is higher than the in staters at those schools, and it brings a much broader alumni network and reputation. UMD is still a little parochial, although getting better. Undergrad is a little over 20% out of state. That means nearly 80% are in state and it's a big school in a small state so it has to dip down in student quality to fill the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, to be more genuine, those Lady Terp b-ball players, who rock.

I'd add, though, that we at UMD love out of staters and int'l students who pay full fare.

Honestly that's what UMD needs to do - attract more out of staters. Not just for the money but to make it a little less parochial and hopefully up the stats. The out of state kids are what makes the difference at schools like UVA and Michigan. The admissions stats for the out of staters is higher than the in staters at those schools, and it brings a much broader alumni network and reputation. UMD is still a little parochial, although getting better. Undergrad is a little over 20% out of state. That means nearly 80% are in state and it's a big school in a small state so it has to dip down in student quality to fill the class.

That begs the question about what the purpose of a state funded school is; to have the highest stats or to educate the kids from the state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, to be more genuine, those Lady Terp b-ball players, who rock.

I'd add, though, that we at UMD love out of staters and int'l students who pay full fare.

Honestly that's what UMD needs to do - attract more out of staters. Not just for the money but to make it a little less parochial and hopefully up the stats. The out of state kids are what makes the difference at schools like UVA and Michigan. The admissions stats for the out of staters is higher than the in staters at those schools, and it brings a much broader alumni network and reputation. UMD is still a little parochial, although getting better. Undergrad is a little over 20% out of state. That means nearly 80% are in state and it's a big school in a small state so it has to dip down in student quality to fill the class.

That begs the question about what the purpose of a state funded school is; to have the highest stats or to educate the kids from the state?

Good point, although it also depends on what the state is funding. In Virginia the state funds a very small percentage of UVAs budget, and it could be 0 if tuition were at potential market rates. UMD seems to be trying to become a higher profile flagship school, and to do that they will need to attract the best and brightest students. There may not be enough of them in MD to fill a large university. Many of Maryland's best and brightest go out of state for school. At DCs public HS more than 100 kids apply to Michigan each year, not to mention many private universities.

The other question is if UMCP needs to serve all students, or if other state funded schools can serve a portion of the students, as they do now. Virginia seems to have better alternatives to UVA than MD does to UMCP. Michigan has Michigan State and a number of other schools. UC has a whole network of schools with 2 of them being top of the heap.

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I think about 30% of the UMD budget is from the state (and as a source of funds it is very insecure, with constant budget cuts mandated by the state, etc.). There is often talk that it is a state school with a responsibility for educating students from the area, but most of the emphasis is on raising our status so the whole "serve the state" narrative rings a little hollow on the CP campus. My sense is that the flagship strives to go bigger-better, leaving the education of the locals to the other campuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think about 30% of the UMD budget is from the state (and as a source of funds it is very insecure, with constant budget cuts mandated by the state, etc.). There is often talk that it is a state school with a responsibility for educating students from the area, but most of the emphasis is on raising our status so the whole "serve the state" narrative rings a little hollow on the CP campus. My sense is that the flagship strives to go bigger-better, leaving the education of the locals to the other campuses.

Looks like in the 2014 budget it was 25%, compared to only about 8% for UVA and 16% for Michigan. That's a pretty big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm. I work at UMD. It is poorly run, and it doesn't seem to be awash in the riches that PP suggested. It also has a lot of kids who aren't that strong, as well as kids who are very strong. Not sure we serve any of them very well.

I'm a UMD grad. While I ran into a few students who weren't that strong, many were very talented. Everyone I know is now doing well in their careers. Your colleagues served us well. The university served us well. I appreciate my degrees from UMD. No regrets. It's a great school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm. I work at UMD. It is poorly run, and it doesn't seem to be awash in the riches that PP suggested. It also has a lot of kids who aren't that strong, as well as kids who are very strong. Not sure we serve any of them very well.

I'm a UMD grad. While I ran into a few students who weren't that strong, many were very talented. Everyone I know is now doing well in their careers. Your colleagues served us well. The university served us well. I appreciate my degrees from UMD. No regrets. It's a great school.

As a hiring manger I've been consistently impressed with the quality of the UMD students I interview. I'm in CS, which is a very strong program there, but regardless, the students are excellent.

[Anonymous]

Still waiting - mistake with SAT scores earlier so there was a reevaluation - do you think thats a No?