What is ES

[Anonymous]

ES is Elementary School
MS is Middle School
HS is High School

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child has received ES in writing when she writes a ton more and provides many more details then are necessary for a P. This has been the case with every teacher/grade she's been in.

but do they give you a benchmark for the P in the first place? seems like if you don't tell the kids what benchmark they need to surpass, they can never get an ES.

Yes. There has always been a grading checklist attached of that is what you mean. I assume if everything is checked the child gets a P. If they do more than what is required for a P then they get an ES.

[Anonymous]

DD got straight As in 4th and no ESs in 5th when they switched the grading system. Now getting As in 6th. The grades in MCPS elementary schools are now pretty much meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD got straight As in 4th and no ESs in 5th when they switched the grading system. Now getting As in 6th. The grades in MCPS elementary schools are now pretty much meaningless.

That's because you can't get higher than an A in that grading system. You can't try to equate the A/F grading system to I/ES. It is not a one to one.

[Anonymous]

My DS is in 3rd grade and for his homework this week, we were to review his report card together and make a goal for the next marking period. DS got all P's. At first he wrote down that he wanted to get ES's on his next report card. It was hard to explain that I believed that getting an ES was largely out of his control because it seems to be so elusive. DHs get annoyed with the report cards because it says that DS's is reading-level is 2 grade-level above his grade, but he never gets ES's in the reading components.

I like the idea that in elementary school parents shouldn't be focusing on what grades their child gets but rather whether they are learning the material. But, then why have parents and students evaluate their report cards and make goals for the next period? It seemed like a pointless homework assignment for my DS - unless I am missing something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is in first and has gotten all ESs in math. I don't think it's because she's well above grade level, but rather she sees and applies concepts without direction. For example, she was working in a 3rd grade workbook and completed a multiplication table from 0x0 to 9x9. Then she saw a pattern in the 8's (they ended in 8,6,4,2,0,8,6,4,2...) and continued the multiplication table out to 8x15 just based on that pattern. I think that's the type of stuff that gets ESs.

But how did your dd have an opportunity to demonstrate those skills she learned at home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child has received ES in writing when she writes a ton more and provides many more details then are necessary for a P. This has been the case with every teacher/grade she's been in.

My Dd is such a rule follower, if instructions say "add 3 details about..." She gets upset with me when I suggest she can write more. The teachers should offer that as an option. My dd is really smart (others have told me this) but hasn't gotten an ES. I don't care much except I find it stupid that it's essentially based on extra credit versus true mastery of a subject.

[Anonymous]

PP, that's exactly what my son would say. He'd go "if they wanted more then why didn't they ask for it?!?!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is in first and has gotten all ESs in math. I don't think it's because she's well above grade level, but rather she sees and applies concepts without direction. For example, she was working in a 3rd grade workbook and completed a multiplication table from 0x0 to 9x9. Then she saw a pattern in the 8's (they ended in 8,6,4,2,0,8,6,4,2...) and continued the multiplication table out to 8x15 just based on that pattern. I think that's the type of stuff that gets ESs.

But how did your dd have an opportunity to demonstrate those skills she learned at home?

She didn't learn them at home. She applied concepts she knew to the task at hand. It's what she does. She's not a trained monkey that needs to perform at school. IMO she sees things differently than most kids.

[Anonymous]

Good for you PP, the fact that she is doing multiplication in the first place shows that your teacher/school has going off-curriculum. My child is a gifted math student (now in 4th), no such opportunities were afforded him during K-3. Per more than one teacher, there was absolutely no way to get an ES in math at our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has received ES in writing when she writes a ton more and provides many more details then are necessary for a P. This has been the case with every teacher/grade she's been in.

but do they give you a benchmark for the P in the first place? seems like if you don't tell the kids what benchmark they need to surpass, they can never get an ES.

Yes. There has always been a grading checklist attached of that is what you mean. I assume if everything is checked the child gets a P. If they do more than what is required for a P then they get an ES.

But do the kids know what is on the checklist so they know what to strive for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is in 3rd grade and for his homework this week, we were to review his report card together and make a goal for the next marking period. DS got all P's. At first he wrote down that he wanted to get ES's on his next report card. It was hard to explain that I believed that getting an ES was largely out of his control because it seems to be so elusive. DHs get annoyed with the report cards because it says that DS's is reading-level is 2 grade-level above his grade, but he never gets ES's in the reading components.

I like the idea that in elementary school parents shouldn't be focusing on what grades their child gets but rather whether they are learning the material. But, then why have parents and students evaluate their report cards and make goals for the next period? It seemed like a pointless homework assignment for my DS - unless I am missing something.

They had our kids do this also this year! I found it ridiculous. One of DD's classmates commented that her goal was to get 3 ESs in her next report card. I had the same thought. How can you set a goal when you have NO IDEA what needs to be done exactly to get there. It is crazy.

I'm fine with not focusing on grades, but then why are you having 2nd graders 'set goals' like that, based on their report cards?? My DD also got all Ps and ended up setting a goal of improving her reading level and continuing with all Ps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has received ES in writing when she writes a ton more and provides many more details then are necessary for a P. This has been the case with every teacher/grade she's been in.

but do they give you a benchmark for the P in the first place? seems like if you don't tell the kids what benchmark they need to surpass, they can never get an ES.

Yes. There has always been a grading checklist attached of that is what you mean. I assume if everything is checked the child gets a P. If they do more than what is required for a P then they get an ES.

But do the kids know what is on the checklist so they know what to strive for?

Stop putting this kind of pressure on your kids. You are going to make them miserable.