5th grade compact (5/6)

[Anonymous]

I don't think the schools that feed into the W schools are following all the restriction. I honestly don't know how they did what they did in BFES. At the end of the day it js just hurting those 5th graders that were not in compact math and now have missed half of 5th grade. I would not be pleased as a parent if it had happened to my child.

I do know that wayside and potomac had at least 50% in the compact math but they at least did that in 4th grade and not admit kids in 5th. So at least those kids didn't lose out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the schools that feed into the W schools are following all the restriction. I honestly don't know how they did what they did in BFES. At the end of the day it js just hurting those 5th graders that were not in compact math and now have missed half of 5th grade. I would not be pleased as a parent if it had happened to my child.

I do know that wayside and potomac had at least 50% in the compact math but they at least did that in 4th grade and not admit kids in 5th. So at least those kids didn't lose out.

I think BFES did a great job to adjust individual student need without causing extra resource on the county. I can only see it reduces tax payers money to combine 5/6.

Compact is not a country club membership not a privilege to get into, each individual student is entitled to get into as long as she/he is ready for it no matter how he/she did at 3rd or even 4th grade. Some kids are motivated learners and can catch up during the summer. Nothing wrong of 50% (even 100%) being in compact -- it just happened because there were more hard working students if not smarter.

It is rather ridiculous to set a quote on the numbers or the ratio into compact.

[Anonymous]

I think that is what upsets me- the students who got in in 5th grade at Beverly farms are not prepared for the class unless they got assessed by the county- not by Beverly Farms. It is not a class that you are supposed to be admitted to because of hardwork or an ability to catch up over the summer. I also really doubt that all those students at the school took a 5th grade common core math class to catch up... If the students did not get in using the county standards in 4th grade they were absolutely allowed to be reevaluated to get into the class, but again, the county should have done that and the school has no say. Beverly Farms decided to go against the county. That is not fair to all of the other schools that did follow the county guidelines.

[Anonymous]

Also, the county never set a maximum number of students for the class. They just stated that the children must meet the criteria and start the 2 year class on time or be evaluated by the county. Beverly farms students did not meet the minimum standards for the class or get evaluated. In addition, they will not complete the 2 year class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, the county never set a maximum number of students for the class. They just stated that the children must meet the criteria and start the 2 year class on time or be evaluated by the county. Beverly farms students did not meet the minimum standards for the class or get evaluated. In addition, they will not complete the 2 year class.

Based on what ? Is there a county standard test ?

[Anonymous]

Yes, to originally get in prior to the class, there are guidelines that have to be met. For students that did not get into the class originally like the Beverly Farms students, the county sends out a representative from the acceleration office to individually assess every student that needs to be reevaluated. Our school had 4 people evaluated at the end of 4th grade and only 1 got into the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, to originally get in prior to the class, there are guidelines that have to be met. For students that did not get into the class originally like the Beverly Farms students, the county sends out a representative from the acceleration office to individually assess every student that needs to be reevaluated. Our school had 4 people evaluated at the end of 4th grade and only 1 got into the class.

Thanks, but how could you say BFES did not do the same ? My understanding is my DD was reevaluated and she was moved into compact. Her most recent MAP M score showed 90 percentile and her teacher told me it was a good decision to have her moved.

[Anonymous]

There was a complicated set of criteria and 5 or 6 step assessment. It seemed quite far to me. This school is not following the rules, and sounds like not doing the kids any favors here.

[Anonymous]

You really believe the county individually assessed over 40 students during the summer from one school? You are completely clueless. You are welcome to pretend, but for those of us in the schools that are not breaking the rules, it definitely gives our children less of a chance for acceleration.

I am glad that your child is fitting in with the class. But the class she is doing well in is full of other students who also did not meet the county criteria...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You really believe the county individually assessed over 40 students during the summer from one school? You are completely clueless. You are welcome to pretend, but for those of us in the schools that are not breaking the rules, it definitely gives our children less of a chance for acceleration.

I am glad that your child is fitting in with the class. But the class she is doing well in is full of other students who also did not meet the county criteria...

I am indeed clueless --but I don't pretend. Had I known such a strict county rule I would not have requested and pushed BFES to move our DD. I am surprised it was such a big deal on placement. After all, parents are doing the best for their kids (move up, or stay, or even repeat), and the school should respond based on individual student information they have.

[Anonymous]

90-% on the Map M is what score?

[Anonymous]

I don't think BFES is the only one. All the other elementary schools that feed into the W school also have more than 50% admittance to the compact math curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:90-% on the Map M is what score?

http://legacysupport.nwea.org/sites/www.nwea.org/files/resources/NWEA%202011%20Norms%20Report_01.17.2012_2.pdf

She scored 233 last fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think BFES is the only one. All the other elementary schools that feed into the W school also have more than 50% admittance to the compact math curriculum.

What is W school ? We will go to Hoover next fall. Again, I have said our DD has always been an average student, but the evidence we have so far, shows that she is progressing well in compact.

[Anonymous]

W school = Wooton, Whitman, etc

Just to compare. Compacted 4/5 per county criteria and MAP-M in 250s.