third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kid's writing or comprehension might be the issue. Once you can read, they are looking at more than just the ability to read.

My kid is a solid T. Definitely not at W or Z. She would be mis categorized if she were placed in the higher group and likely struggle. I'm just surprised that there are 10 kids (5 per group) reading at those levels. I never pegged her reading as average. We were going to have her take the HGC test, but clearly she is far from having her needs not met by the school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid's writing or comprehension might be the issue. Once you can read, they are looking at more than just the ability to read.

My kid is a solid T. Definitely not at W or Z. She would be mis categorized if she were placed in the higher group and likely struggle. I'm just surprised that there are 10 kids (5 per group) reading at those levels. I never pegged her reading as average. We were going to have her take the HGC test, but clearly she is far from having her needs not met by the school

I think that your child's school assesses reading levels differently from my child's school.

[Anonymous]

I find this hard to believe. We are also at a close in SS school. The highest kids at this point in 3rd are at around T. You should still have her tested for HGC. My older child went to HGC and although he was around X at the end of 3rd I think he was around T at the beginning. Maybe even S. Though all the HGC kids were at Z by the beginning of 4th I think that a lot happens during 3rd. Also, I don't think reading level matters much to get in. It's mainly the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid's writing or comprehension might be the issue. Once you can read, they are looking at more than just the ability to read.

My kid is a solid T. Definitely not at W or Z. She would be mis categorized if she were placed in the higher group and likely struggle. I'm just surprised that there are 10 kids (5 per group) reading at those levels. I never pegged her reading as average. We were going to have her take the HGC test, but clearly she is far from having her needs not met by the school

I think that your child's school assesses reading levels differently from my child's school.

Why do you say that? Do you mean that the school tests to liberally or that my kid should be a Z but the system is too tough? Not being snarky

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid's writing or comprehension might be the issue. Once you can read, they are looking at more than just the ability to read.

My kid is a solid T. Definitely not at W or Z. She would be mis categorized if she were placed in the higher group and likely struggle. I'm just surprised that there are 10 kids (5 per group) reading at those levels. I never pegged her reading as average. We were going to have her take the HGC test, but clearly she is far from having her needs not met by the school

I think that your child's school assesses reading levels differently from my child's school.

Why do you say that? Do you mean that the school tests to liberally or that my kid should be a Z but the system is too tough? Not being snarky

More liberally. My child's MAP-M was in the 99th percentile according to the NWEA norms (thanks, DCUM!), but her reading level is Q-R.

[Anonymous]

^^^MAP-R, not MAP-M!

[Anonymous]

I agree wtih 12:18. My third grader can read anything, when I asked why she was on her level (I forget which), her teacher said she wanted her writing to improve. So if she's not writing on a fifth grade level, they won't move her beyond that reading level (somewhere for 4th graders). Many kids (maybe even both groups you are referring to) get stuck while their writing improves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find this hard to believe. We are also at a close in SS school. The highest kids at this point in 3rd are at around T. You should still have her tested for HGC. My older child went to HGC and although he was around X at the end of 3rd I think he was around T at the beginning. Maybe even S. Though all the HGC kids were at Z by the beginning of 4th I think that a lot happens during 3rd. Also, I don't think reading level matters much to get in. It's mainly the test.

Based on the report card, reading levels seem to stop being tracked at W, which is the end of 5th grade. I don't see X to Z. Do they even track reading levels in MS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree wtih 12:18. My third grader can read anything, when I asked why she was on her level (I forget which), her teacher said she wanted her writing to improve. So if she's not writing on a fifth grade level, they won't move her beyond that reading level (somewhere for 4th graders). Many kids (maybe even both groups you are referring to) get stuck while their writing improves.

That makes it even more surprising. I mean not only are these kids able to read and comprehend text at the late 5th to middle school level, their writing skills are also that good. The words at T that my daughter had on her vocab sheet were querulous and excelsior. I don't think I knew them at 8, but these kids already do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree wtih 12:18. My third grader can read anything, when I asked why she was on her level (I forget which), her teacher said she wanted her writing to improve. So if she's not writing on a fifth grade level, they won't move her beyond that reading level (somewhere for 4th graders). Many kids (maybe even both groups you are referring to) get stuck while their writing improves.

That makes it even more surprising. I mean not only are these kids able to read and comprehend text at the late 5th to middle school level, their writing skills are also that good. The words at T that my daughter had on her vocab sheet were querulous and excelsior. I don't think I knew them at 8, but these kids already do!

Maybe it's just an extraordinary collection of precociously brilliant children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find this hard to believe. We are also at a close in SS school. The highest kids at this point in 3rd are at around T. You should still have her tested for HGC. My older child went to HGC and although he was around X at the end of 3rd I think he was around T at the beginning. Maybe even S. Though all the HGC kids were at Z by the beginning of 4th I think that a lot happens during 3rd. Also, I don't think reading level matters much to get in. It's mainly the test.

Based on the report card, reading levels seem to stop being tracked at W, which is the end of 5th grade. I don't see X to Z. Do they even track reading levels in MS?

No. In sixth grade they either have Reading & English (they have assigned novels), or Reading and a Forgein Language.

Reading class seems to be more writing focused in Middle School. While English class is more reading focused. No one cares about levels at that point. Grades (A, B, Cs) come back into the picutre. Just my observation as a parent.

[Anonymous]

My child - in a Bethesda elem school - was at level T at the end of 3rd grade (I just checked his exit report card to verify), and was in the highest reading group. Either your child is in an outstanding class, or else I would wonder at how the kids are being assessed. Talk to her teacher, OP, and ask these questions. Regardless you obviously have nothing to worry about with your child's reading level - and, as a poster said, definitely have her take the HGC test - what is the harm?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
In sixth grade they either have Reading & English (they have assigned novels), or Reading and a Forgein Language.

You mean Reading and English, or Foreign Language and English.

[Anonymous]

They test up to level z while in elementary school. But once they reach z they do not reevaluate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree wtih 12:18. My third grader can read anything, when I asked why she was on her level (I forget which), her teacher said she wanted her writing to improve. So if she's not writing on a fifth grade level, they won't move her beyond that reading level (somewhere for 4th graders). Many kids (maybe even both groups you are referring to) get stuck while their writing improves.

That makes it even more surprising. I mean not only are these kids able to read and comprehend text at the late 5th to middle school level, their writing skills are also that good. The words at T that my daughter had on her vocab sheet were querulous and excelsior. I don't think I knew them at 8, but these kids already do!

I find this claim hard to believe. What school?