Size of K class

[Anonymous]

At privates you're not necessarily paying for smaller class sizes but lower ratios...sure class sizes in publics can be smaller also, but small doesn't always equal best or most effective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are several Ward 3 public schools with smaller K class sizes and better student/teacher ratios.

Which schools? How many teachers, and how many "teacher aids" are in the class full time?

Janney 22 average core class size
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Janney+Elementary+School

Murch 23 average core class size
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Murch+Elementary+School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several Ward 3 public schools with smaller K class sizes and better student/teacher ratios.

Which schools? How many teachers, and how many "teacher aids" are in the class full time?

Janney 22 average core class size
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Janney+Elementary+School

Murch 23 average core class size
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Murch+Elementary+School

You do know that data is from 2013/14 right? Btw, Oyster's average core class size is 17 (according to the link below). So at Oyster, your kid gets small class sizes and a second language.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Oyster-Adams+Bilingual+School

If you really want to know current numbers, you should search the DCPS board. I recall that someone posted that Mann is averaging 18-19 in its K classes this year. However, Janney seems to always have large classes.

[Anonymous]

Well, next time you talk to a mom with a kid in private school thank her for keeping DCPS NUMBERS SO LOW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, next time you talk to a mom with a kid in private school thank her for keeping DCPS NUMBERS SO LOW.

Will do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several Ward 3 public schools with smaller K class sizes and better student/teacher ratios.

Which schools? How many teachers, and how many "teacher aids" are in the class full time?

Janney 22 average core class size
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Janney+Elementary+School

Murch 23 average core class size
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Murch+Elementary+School

You do know that data is from 2013/14 right? Btw, Oyster's average core class size is 17 (according to the link below). So at Oyster, your kid gets small class sizes and a second language.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Oyster-Adams+Bilingual+School

If you really want to know current numbers, you should search the DCPS board. I recall that someone posted that Mann is averaging 18-19 in its K classes this year. However, Janney seems to always have large classes.

Not just Ward 3 schools but charters too:

Yu Ying has 18 kids and two full time teachers per class in both English and Chinese classrooms for K. Mandarin teachers are native speakers.

Creative Minds has 17 kids and two full time teachers per class for K.

It looks like some public schools aren't all that different from private.

[Anonymous]

This is interesting. I have a child in public K with 24 kids, 1 teacher. She is a fantastic teacher but it is not ideal.

I have another child at Holton middle school with 11 kids in math and 14-16 kids in the other classes. We did public for K-2nd because the numbers were doable. She had 18 in her K class, 20 in 1st and 21 in 2nd.

I just can not believe that all schools don't have lower ratios for younger kids. How does a preschool which is usually play-based have such a low ratio and then K-2nd grades where there is a huge increase in workload expectations and a huge learning curve within each kid has a huge ratio.

That said, I like the classes that have larger kids and 2 teachers. I think it gives the kids more friends to click with but also time for 2 different things. It also gives a chance for a teacher to work one on one or with a few kids and another teacher doing a lesson. AND it gives the teacher a chance to go to the bathroom.

I will be looking for a private next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is interesting. I have a child in public K with 24 kids, 1 teacher. She is a fantastic teacher but it is not ideal.

I have another child at Holton middle school with 11 kids in math and 14-16 kids in the other classes. We did public for K-2nd because the numbers were doable. She had 18 in her K class, 20 in 1st and 21 in 2nd.

I just can not believe that all schools don't have lower ratios for younger kids. How does a preschool which is usually play-based have such a low ratio and then K-2nd grades where there is a huge increase in workload expectations and a huge learning curve within each kid has a huge ratio.

That said, I like the classes that have larger kids and 2 teachers. I think it gives the kids more friends to click with but also time for 2 different things. It also gives a chance for a teacher to work one on one or with a few kids and another teacher doing a lesson. AND it gives the teacher a chance to go to the bathroom.

I will be looking for a private next year.

You may have a point there. Private schools are probably in a much better position to manage class sizes as kids move up grades. Charters would also have more control here. Oyster is in the worst position to control class size since they have to take all IB kids. However, the immersion aspect certainly keeps many kids from joining Oyster in the upper years (if they aren't already on grade level in both English and Spanish). I personally know of several families who were strongly counseled by admins. at Oyster to not enroll their IB 2nd grade (and above) kids who had no prior Spanish immersion schooling. It's just too hard to catch up…and it can be a confidence-destroyer for young kids).

[Anonymous]

NPS has 3 K classes of 12 kids each. Each class has 1 teacher, and there is 4th teacher who floats amongst the 3 classes.

Four our DS, it's exactly what he needs. Love the school so far.

[Anonymous]

Lowell has 3 K clases this year with 12 or 13 kids. Each class has two teachers. They also split the kids for some extras, leaving 6 kids and 2 teachers to do more individual work (reading & writing). I like the small class size for this age group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sidwell 24!!

With two full teachers.

At the very least, I would expect 2 teachers in the classroom with 24 children. I would be quite upset about paying Sidwell's tuition AND having 24 kids in my child's K class. I'm also not impressed with Maret's and Beauvoir's class sizes. There are several Ward 3 public schools with smaller K class sizes and better student/teacher ratios. Isn’t one of the hallmarks of a private school education small class sizes (i.e., 18 kids or less)?

+1

[Anonymous]

At our DCPS we have 23 kids and 2 teachers.

[Anonymous]

At Yu Ying in K, there is a teacher and an assistant, but the assistant is shared with another class...floats back and forth all day. Class size is 18-19.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At our DCPS we have 23 kids and 2 teachers.

Two full time teachers? Which DCPS school is that? What grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our DCPS we have 23 kids and 2 teachers.

Two full time teachers? Which DCPS school is that? What grade?

Kindergarten. Yes two full time teachers. As our luck would have it both are certified but the teaching assistant does not have to be certified, ours just happens to be. All title 1 schools have this ratio.