confused- what do you think about my situation? and why don't they just use progesterone?

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Anonymous wrote:OP again- okay, HERE are more things about progesterone and viability (not exclusive to ectopic... not finding the other stuff I had found before and trying to limit my OCD addition to internet at this time!

91% of pregnancies with progesterone lower than 15 ng/ml will end in miscarriage

Progesterone over 25 ng/mL at 10 weeks associated with just a 2.15% risk of miscarriage

Interesting. What's your source?

My 12 ng/ml progesterone baby is sleeping beside me right now.

This. I am currently in my first trimester and on progesterone as my doctor said it was low on the 21 day test at only 9. The thing is, is another provider in the same office said that progesterone levels vary from woman to woman and 9 may be low for me but normal for you. There's no real way to gauge it she said. The flip side is I've read that low progesterone can directly impact implantation. So who's right? But the truth is the progesterone can't really hurt anything so "why not"...that said, I don't see why your provider is so reluctant to let you try it, OP.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think OP is proposing *taking* progesterone -- I think she's asking why they don't use progesterone level instead of HCG level as a measure of viability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again- okay, HERE are more things about progesterone and viability (not exclusive to ectopic... not finding the other stuff I had found before and trying to limit my OCD addition to internet at this time!

91% of pregnancies with progesterone lower than 15 ng/ml will end in miscarriage

Progesterone over 25 ng/mL at 10 weeks associated with just a 2.15% risk of miscarriage

Interesting. What's your source?

My 12 ng/ml progesterone baby is sleeping beside me right now.

This. I am currently in my first trimester and on progesterone as my doctor said it was low on the 21 day test at only 9. The thing is, is another provider in the same office said that progesterone levels vary from woman to woman and 9 may be low for me but normal for you. There's no real way to gauge it she said. The flip side is I've read that low progesterone can directly impact implantation. So who's right? But the truth is the progesterone can't really hurt anything so "why not"...that said, I don't see why your provider is so reluctant to let you try it, OP.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think OP is proposing *taking* progesterone -- I think she's asking why they don't use progesterone level instead of HCG level as a measure of viability.

Ah gotcha. My first hcg was 25 which was low but progesterone was excellent at 35. So far it has been a viable pregnancy so maybe OP is onto something. Although I don't know what that number would have been without supplements.

It always makes me wonder because that one provider said that low progesterone is usually an indication of an unviable pregnancy so supplements would be useless - but then another provider same practice prescribed it to keep a pregnancy from failing due to low progesterone. Which came first the chicken or the egg?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again- okay, HERE are more things about progesterone and viability (not exclusive to ectopic... not finding the other stuff I had found before and trying to limit my OCD addition to internet at this time!

91% of pregnancies with progesterone lower than 15 ng/ml will end in miscarriage

Progesterone over 25 ng/mL at 10 weeks associated with just a 2.15% risk of miscarriage

Interesting. What's your source?

My 12 ng/ml progesterone baby is sleeping beside me right now.

This. I am currently in my first trimester and on progesterone as my doctor said it was low on the 21 day test at only 9. The thing is, is another provider in the same office said that progesterone levels vary from woman to woman and 9 may be low for me but normal for you. There's no real way to gauge it she said. The flip side is I've read that low progesterone can directly impact implantation. So who's right? But the truth is the progesterone can't really hurt anything so "why not"...that said, I don't see why your provider is so reluctant to let you try it, OP.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think OP is proposing *taking* progesterone -- I think she's asking why they don't use progesterone level instead of HCG level as a measure of viability.

And replying to myself, I can think of three reasons:

1) possibly more false negatives with progesterone? The stats you cite suggest high progesterone levels are a very good sign, but that doesn't necessarily mean low ones are automatically bad.

2) one of those stats is for the 10th week of pregnancy; often they're measuring HCG at 4 weeks.

3) many women doing IVF receive supplemental progesterone, and artificially increased progesterone levels might not be as reliable an indicator.