Feeding Bancroft and Shepherd across park undermines efforts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster. I agree Shepard and Bancroft should feed elsewhere. They do look to have gained a gerrymander via some political deal.

The only reason I can see that makes any sense is that DME looked at the available Deal/Wilson seats, decided she could fit in a few more kids, and that Shep/Bancroft just had the political pull (or got lucky) to be the ones selected.

But if there really are more available seats at Deal/Wilson, I think it makes more sense to put them into the openly available lottery rather than reserve them for Shep/Bancroft.

Does DME describe any justification anywhere for giving this special favor to Shep/Bancroft?

It goes back for some decades. Even before a DME office was established. These schools will NEVER be zoned out of DEAL/Wilson regardless of the opposition.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. I agree Shepard and Bancroft should feed elsewhere. They do look to have gained a gerrymander via some political deal.

The only reason I can see that makes any sense is that DME looked at the available Deal/Wilson seats, decided she could fit in a few more kids, and that Shep/Bancroft just had the political pull (or got lucky) to be the ones selected.

But if there really are more available seats at Deal/Wilson, I think it makes more sense to put them into the openly available lottery rather than reserve them for Shep/Bancroft.

Does DME describe any justification anywhere for giving this special favor to Shep/Bancroft?

It goes back for some decades. Even before a DME office was established. These schools will NEVER be zoned out of DEAL/Wilson regardless of the opposition.

As I've said before, the boundaries were last revisited in the 1960s. Everyone's current boundaries go back decades (except in cases where schools have closed). Ask residents of Crestwood what decades of feeding to Deal and Wilson gets you.

The simple fact is that the DME looked at the current Deal feeders, decided one had to be eliminated, and chose the one that was already a dual feeder. Problem solved. No conspiracies or back room deals.

[Anonymous]

Ditching only one feeder school is shortsighted considering how many kids are now attending DCPS WotP. Is this really going to solve overcrowding at Deal? I doubt it.

[Anonymous]

The 16th Street Corridor should remain o the Deal boundary (thus making it Deal/Wilson) with Dual feeder rights to the new/unknown schools as they emerge.
This means 16th Street Heights AND Crestwood should be treated consistently and just like Mt Pleasant and Sheperd Park and Colonial Village be put back in the Deal boundary. To do any other way would is UNFAIR and UNJUST. Since Eaton, Woodley Park, Adams Morgan and SW DC all moved out of Deal/wilson there sure is room for the lwoest density neighborhoods 16th Street Heights and Crestwood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 16th Street Corridor should remain o the Deal boundary (thus making it Deal/Wilson) with Dual feeder rights to the new/unknown schools as they emerge.
This means 16th Street Heights AND Crestwood should be treated consistently and just like Mt Pleasant and Sheperd Park and Colonial Village be put back in the Deal boundary. To do any other way would is UNFAIR and UNJUST. Since Eaton, Woodley Park, Adams Morgan and SW DC all moved out of Deal/wilson there sure is room for the lwoest density neighborhoods 16th Street Heights and Crestwood.

The 16th corridor is by definition three blocks from Roosevelt...that neighborhood SHOULD be feeding the HS that is in that neighborhood. Of course, the onus is on DCPS to make that school acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 16th Street Corridor should remain o the Deal boundary (thus making it Deal/Wilson) with Dual feeder rights to the new/unknown schools as they emerge.
This means 16th Street Heights AND Crestwood should be treated consistently and just like Mt Pleasant and Sheperd Park and Colonial Village be put back in the Deal boundary. To do any other way would is UNFAIR and UNJUST. Since Eaton, Woodley Park, Adams Morgan and SW DC all moved out of Deal/wilson there sure is room for the lwoest density neighborhoods 16th Street Heights and Crestwood.

PS: Dual feeders are dumb.

[Anonymous]

If the trend of more IB families for Eaton and Hearst going to their neighborhood school continue (look at their incoming PK4 class compared to other years), there will be very few spots for OOB families (including those in Mt Pleasant). Any scenario that talks about great number of OOB kids getting into Deal via WOPT schools (outside of set asides) is not going to be happening in a few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster. I agree Shepard and Bancroft should feed elsewhere. They do look to have gained a gerrymander via some political deal.

The only reason I can see that makes any sense is that DME looked at the available Deal/Wilson seats, decided she could fit in a few more kids, and that Shep/Bancroft just had the political pull (or got lucky) to be the ones selected.

But if there really are more available seats at Deal/Wilson, I think it makes more sense to put them into the openly available lottery rather than reserve them for Shep/Bancroft.

Does DME describe any justification anywhere for giving this special favor to Shep/Bancroft?

^ Useless post by an ignorant fool. Shepherd and Bancroft have been Deal feeders for decades. Maybe try shutting up when you don't know what you're talking about?

[Anonymous]

By CONTINUING to have Shepherd and Bancroft feed into Deal, multiple principles that the Advisory Committee outlined are fulfilled. Particularly, it allows Deal and Wilson to continue to be diverse schools. If one takes Shepherd and Bancroft out and if only IB students can get into Lafayette, Janney, Murch and increasingly more Hearst, Deal and Wilson wlll be much more homogeneous.

[Anonymous]

Not economically diverse, fool......this is gerrymandering. pure and simple

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 16th Street Corridor should remain o the Deal boundary (thus making it Deal/Wilson) with Dual feeder rights to the new/unknown schools as they emerge.
This means 16th Street Heights AND Crestwood should be treated consistently and just like Mt Pleasant and Sheperd Park and Colonial Village be put back in the Deal boundary. To do any other way would is UNFAIR and UNJUST. Since Eaton, Woodley Park, Adams Morgan and SW DC all moved out of Deal/wilson there sure is room for the lwoest density neighborhoods 16th Street Heights and Crestwood.

This in bold is pretty much going to happen for the next few years, isn't it? Except it is a grandfathering proposed, not a dual feed. Jeff has posted about this elsewhere.

Keep in mind that the Crestwood schools (Powell, West) are not Deal feeders, although Crestwood has been in the Deal boundary. Whereas Bancroft and Shepherd are Deal feeders. Part of what the DME set out to do was align boundaries with feeder patterns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd already feeds Deal. Shepherd and Deal are both IB schools. Shepherd students attending Deal have had the right once enrolled in Deal to continue to Wilson (per DCPS). This doesn't represent a change. 9:59 is either being sarcastic or really doesn't know the demographics of Shepherd Park.

Bancroft already feeds Deal, too. It also feeds into Lincoln/CHEC, yet the overwhelming majority of 5th graders (or their parents) choose Deal. Even low income Latino parents know which is the better school.
We'll also have MacFarland as an option and if they can build a high quality program, Bancroft parents will come.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not economically diverse, fool......this is gerrymandering. pure and simple

You're an idiot. These boundaries - specifically these schools included into Deal - were created decades ago because DCPS lost a historic lawsuit. Why? Basically because Deal was too white. Nothing is being gerrymandered now, this is the continuation of a historic pattern. You're a bitter, envious dipsh*t.

Next time, trying learning before you bloviate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not economically diverse, fool......this is gerrymandering. pure and simple

Wondering what you mean by this. Shepherd ES is 79% black, 9% latino, but only 33% FARM. Is that what you are referring to with this comment?

Bancroft ES is 71% FARM, 73% latino, 8% black overall and higher than that in the graduating Grade 5 class (almost entirely low income in grade 5).

We can conclude that Bancroft provides both racial and economic diversity to Deal and Shepherd at least provides racial diversity. Shepherd also provides some economic diversity compared with Janney, Lafayette. Janney is 4% FARM.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not economically diverse, fool......this is gerrymandering. pure and simple

You're an idiot. These boundaries - specifically these schools included into Deal - were created decades ago because DCPS lost a historic lawsuit. Why? Basically because Deal was too white. Nothing is being gerrymandered now, this is the continuation of a historic pattern. You're a bitter, envious dipsh*t.

Next time, trying learning before you bloviate.

Both sides in this argument are looking pretty foolish and uniformed to me. Perhaps both of you could calm down? Crestwood was included into Deal's boundaries as a result of the exact same lawsuit as Shepherd Park. Crestwood -- like just about every other friggin neighborhood in the city -- has had it's boundaries for decades. Neither of those saved us from losing access to Deal. Neither of those saved Shepherd Park or Bancroft which owe their good luck to being Deal feeders -- not lawsuits or length of service.

Crestwood -- and 16th Street Heights -- is being removed from Deal and assigned to a school that does not exist. In 2015, Roosevelt will become our assigned high school. While we will be grandfathered into Deal -- and those who attend Deal will get feeder rights to Wilson -- this is all moving much to fast for us. Anyone who thinks this is fair or even reasonable has a much different perspective than I do.

I have great hope for Roosevelt and a new middle school. I have no hope that either will be an acceptable alternative to Deal and Wilson in 2015. I have no animosity towards those neighborhoods that kept their favored feeder relationships. Good for you. I wish it could have been us. But, please don't try to act like we don't have grounds for legitimate complaint.