Boys and educational expectations in AAP

Anonymous
PS PP here (16:30)for the first few years in AAP, we would have DS dictate and we'd type it up until he was able to write well, around grade 5. A homeschooling trick we learned plus most boys aren't truly capable/interested in writing until 5th or 6th grade (eg our DS's mind moved so much faster than his hands could for years - even now it's not great but he has more patience).
Anonymous
third grade AAP teacher here. I am so looking forward to your "wiggly" lazy unmotivated son. Love the ones who can't write!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think your DS is a typical boy. My DS is in 3rd now, and he is still the same way. But he did get into GT program, and after much back/forth, he is going. I know the program does require a lot of writing, so we are prepared to pull him out if he absolutely hates it. But it would be a shame to not give it a try.


It requires a lot of writing? Yikes, this comment just gave me a headache. Getting my son to write is just plain painful. I guess it will be touch and go for us also.


Most of the writing is done at school, so you won't have to be the one getting him to do it a lot of the time.
Anonymous
As a parent of an absent minded professor, non 2E boy who is finishing the elementary school AAP program, I think AAP is an excellent place for these types of boys. They do an exceptional job reaching them and teaching them in a way that keeps them from falling through the cracks or becoming labeled as troublemakers. They know how to teach boys like your son.

Honestly, after going through the program I really think that is the kind of kid AAP is truly designed for, and not the "star" student types. I think that is why you see good students with bad gbrs scores; their teachers actually understand AAP and what type of student the program is meant to reach.

I would be far more hesitant to send my kid to AAP if they were, for example, a well behaved, structured, pleaser, kid that teachers want to have type of student.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of an absent minded professor, non 2E boy who is finishing the elementary school AAP program, I think AAP is an excellent place for these types of boys. They do an exceptional job reaching them and teaching them in a way that keeps them from falling through the cracks or becoming labeled as troublemakers. They know how to teach boys like your son.

Honestly, after going through the program I really think that is the kind of kid AAP is truly designed for, and not the "star" student types. I think that is why you see good students with bad gbrs scores; their teachers actually understand AAP and what type of student the program is meant to reach.

I would be far more hesitant to send my kid to AAP if they were, for example, a well behaved, structured, pleaser, kid that teachers want to have type of student.


Does your child go to a center school or local level IV?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of an absent minded professor, non 2E boy who is finishing the elementary school AAP program, I think AAP is an excellent place for these types of boys. They do an exceptional job reaching them and teaching them in a way that keeps them from falling through the cracks or becoming labeled as troublemakers. They know how to teach boys like your son.

Honestly, after going through the program I really think that is the kind of kid AAP is truly designed for, and not the "star" student types. I think that is why you see good students with bad gbrs scores; their teachers actually understand AAP and what type of student the program is meant to reach.

I would be far more hesitant to send my kid to AAP if they were, for example, a well behaved, structured, pleaser, kid that teachers want to have type of student.


Does your child go to a center school or local level IV?


Center.

Without a doubt, the center teachers truly undrrstands these boys.

They do an excellent job getting them through that elementary hump, when so many of them would otherwise end up labeled as troublemakers, distractions, poor students, lazy, etc.

They know how to teach them and get them to the point where their maturity catches up with their intellect.

That is one of the best things about AAP in my opinion and one of the things I hope they don't lose if the ever restructure the selection process.

They are there for the kids (boys and girls) who might have exceptional minds but who might not be exceptional students.

The difference in my child's grade, particularly the 2E and scatterbrained kies is significant between when they began and now at the end of 6th. AAP has really made a difference to these kids and has gotten most of them to a place where they have the skills to successfully use their brains to fullest potential, whether or not they remain in middle school AAP.

That is the value of elementary school AAP in my opinion.

Perhaps that is also why parents of well behaved, typically bright kids post often about AAP being no better/different/worth it/challenging etc. They are not necessarily the kids that AAP is structured to reach, and they would likely be fine with or without AAP. They also don't realize the value because their kids are doing fine in any class.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of an absent minded professor, non 2E boy who is finishing the elementary school AAP program, I think AAP is an excellent place for these types of boys. They do an exceptional job reaching them and teaching them in a way that keeps them from falling through the cracks or becoming labeled as troublemakers. They know how to teach boys like your son.

Honestly, after going through the program I really think that is the kind of kid AAP is truly designed for, and not the "star" student types. I think that is why you see good students with bad gbrs scores; their teachers actually understand AAP and what type of student the program is meant to reach.

I would be far more hesitant to send my kid to AAP if they were, for example, a well behaved, structured, pleaser, kid that teachers want to have type of student.


Does your child go to a center school or local level IV?


Center.

Without a doubt, the center teachers truly undrrstands these boys.

They do an excellent job getting them through that elementary hump, when so many of them would otherwise end up labeled as troublemakers, distractions, poor students, lazy, etc.

They know how to teach them and get them to the point where their maturity catches up with their intellect.

That is one of the best things about AAP in my opinion and one of the things I hope they don't lose if the ever restructure the selection process.

They are there for the kids (boys and girls) who might have exceptional minds but who might not be exceptional students.

The difference in my child's grade, particularly the 2E and scatterbrained kies is significant between when they began and now at the end of 6th. AAP has really made a difference to these kids and has gotten most of them to a place where they have the skills to successfully use their brains to fullest potential, whether or not they remain in middle school AAP.

That is the value of elementary school AAP in my opinion.

Perhaps that is also why parents of well behaved, typically bright kids post often about AAP being no better/different/worth it/challenging etc. They are not necessarily the kids that AAP is structured to reach, and they would likely be fine with or without AAP. They also don't realize the value because their kids are doing fine in any class.



Come again?
Anonymous
Third grade teacher. Are you even qualified to teach AAP? My guess is during the first course they go over how children can exhibit giftedness in a variety of ways. Maybe you should like at the general schools discussion forum which talks about the studies done which conclude a fine motor skill lag in boys especially in K-3. I know many boys who are brilliant, but not heavily into writing and have sloppy handwriting. Maybe you should teach an upper level grade instead.
Anonymous
Maybe your over indulged child should get a work ethic instead of his buttwipe parents constantly praising his "brilliance". Then, perhaps, Lord Sharla might put some effort into his schoolwork. Oops, he is gifted so he need not do anything. So many of these Aap kids will be huge failures later in life due to their parents....
Anonymous
21:08 Hoping you aren't a teacher, much less an AAP one. Do you say the same thing about girls who are very eloquent and good at writing but aren't into math or science?
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