If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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04/21/2014 22:05

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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As I mentioned in another thread, a friend of a friend rented an apt in a JKLM boundary so their three kids would be IB. Much more efficient than the convoluted scenario in the OP.

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04/21/2014 22:11

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:As I mentioned in another thread, a friend of a friend rented an apt in a JKLM boundary so their three kids would be IB. Much more efficient than the convoluted scenario in the OP.

I think the problem is that if you get in with an IB right and then you move OOB you lose your spot at the school. Historically, if you get in OOB, it doesn't matter where you live. You keep your OOB spot regardless. If you don't want to live in an apartment on Wisconsin forever and would rather live in your house in Petworth or Bloomingdale but not send your kids to the mediocre schools there, then it makes more sense to try for an OOB spot than to move IB temporarily.

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04/21/2014 22:24

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:As I mentioned in another thread, a friend of a friend rented an apt in a JKLM boundary so their three kids would be IB. Much more efficient than the convoluted scenario in the OP.

I think the problem is that if you get in with an IB right and then you move OOB you lose your spot at the school. Historically, if you get in OOB, it doesn't matter where you live. You keep your OOB spot regardless. If you don't want to live in an apartment on Wisconsin forever and would rather live in your house in Petworth or Bloomingdale but not send your kids to the mediocre schools there, then it makes more sense to try for an OOB spot than to move IB temporarily.

True. They did try OOB, they just didn't get a spot. So they rented their way around the system.

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04/22/2014 12:53

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous

In the proposed system wouldn't you lose your spot if you give up that rental??

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04/22/2014 13:17

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:In the proposed system wouldn't you lose your spot if you give up that rental??

Yes, I believe that's right.

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04/22/2014 13:45

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:As I mentioned in another thread, a friend of a friend rented an apt in a JKLM boundary so their three kids would be IB. Much more efficient than the convoluted scenario in the OP.

I think the problem is that if you get in with an IB right and then you move OOB you lose your spot at the school. Historically, if you get in OOB, it doesn't matter where you live. You keep your OOB spot regardless. If you don't want to live in an apartment on Wisconsin forever and would rather live in your house in Petworth or Bloomingdale but not send your kids to the mediocre schools there, then it makes more sense to try for an OOB spot than to move IB temporarily.

this is not true. we were IB for a JKLM school and our kid did pre-k there (we were trying to game the system, had been renting a place there for 7 years, long before child was even born) right before kindergarten started we bought IB for another JKLM school. we asked to stay at our original school because kid was happy there and we were already part of the community. nobody kicked our kid out. I udnerstand it is at teh discretion of the principal whether a IB kid who moves OOB can stay, and in our case we had no problem (and two of my kid's classmates ended up in the same situatio, one chose to leave the school, the other to stay and did it with no problem). our second kid is now there and got a spot as OOB with subling preference. so, at least in my experience, you do not automatically lose your spot if you move OOB after getting in as IB (I actually do not know anybody who did)

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04/22/2014 13:56

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I mentioned in another thread, a friend of a friend rented an apt in a JKLM boundary so their three kids would be IB. Much more efficient than the convoluted scenario in the OP.

I think the problem is that if you get in with an IB right and then you move OOB you lose your spot at the school. Historically, if you get in OOB, it doesn't matter where you live. You keep your OOB spot regardless. If you don't want to live in an apartment on Wisconsin forever and would rather live in your house in Petworth or Bloomingdale but not send your kids to the mediocre schools there, then it makes more sense to try for an OOB spot than to move IB temporarily.

this is not true. we were IB for a JKLM school and our kid did pre-k there (we were trying to game the system, had been renting a place there for 7 years, long before child was even born) right before kindergarten started we bought IB for another JKLM school. we asked to stay at our original school because kid was happy there and we were already part of the community. nobody kicked our kid out. I udnerstand it is at teh discretion of the principal whether a IB kid who moves OOB can stay, and in our case we had no problem (and two of my kid's classmates ended up in the same situatio, one chose to leave the school, the other to stay and did it with no problem). our second kid is now there and got a spot as OOB with subling preference. so, at least in my experience, you do not automatically lose your spot if you move OOB after getting in as IB (I actually do not know anybody who did)

It will probably be principal's discretion under the new scenario of coming from a failing school and then moving.

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04/22/2014 14:28

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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This has already happened in SF, although their lottery isn't exactly the same as any of the DC proposals.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/08/21/public-school-selection-anything-but-elementary-in-san-francisco/

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04/22/2014 20:33

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Anonymous wrote:I was talking about the various options with some neighbors on Saturday and we came to the conclusion that very little has been thought through.

I see a lot of unintended consequences in these proposals.

Oh but listen to the 21CSF gurus: "Our kids went through DCPS and now they're doctors, etc. Your kids will be just fine."

That's science at work, people.

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04/22/2014 20:41

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Anonymous wrote:In the proposed system wouldn't you lose your spot if you give up that rental??

You'd also lose it if you sold your house.

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04/22/2014 21:14

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Anonymous

Or you could be a DC government worker who resides in PG county -- and uses her connections to bypass the system completely and get coveted slots in a good DC school for before and after care on the way to work.

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04/22/2014 21:15

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Anonymous

^^does anyone actually do that?

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04/22/2014 21:17

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous

And what does it have to do with the set aside?

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04/22/2014 21:35

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:I think that they could just say that your spot there is contingent on your living in boundary for the school you got the spot through. Similar to having to continue to live in-boundary to keep an in-boundary spot today.

And whose job would it be to track compliance?

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04/22/2014 21:38

Subject: If the DME goes forward with 10% set asides, will this be a common outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that they could just say that your spot there is contingent on your living in boundary for the school you got the spot through. Similar to having to continue to live in-boundary to keep an in-boundary spot today.

And whose job would it be to track compliance?

Th school you go to, which verifies residency. Just like they do now for IB students. If your residency verification is with a new address, then you don't keep the spot.