Women bosses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

+1

+2! Women bosses are always the hardest on other women. I've caught my current female boss making snide remarks about mat leave when men in my office have taken off similar time (men normally take 4 weeks and women 6 weeks).

[Anonymous]

My female boss sux, bad. You can have her.
She has sharp elbows, manipulates everything to her advantage, no transparency, poor communicator, feels threatened by anyone with a brain. She also tries to control all communication of our small group and the c level. But she lies and has hidden agendas (herself!) so that's a clusterfunk too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am female, and a name partner. I also have children. It's possible.

Who did you sleep with to get there? And who was raising your kids while you were doing this?

Not the poster you are responding too, but you make me sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My female boss sux, bad. You can have her.
She has sharp elbows, manipulates everything to her advantage, no transparency, poor communicator, feels threatened by anyone with a brain. She also tries to control all communication of our small group and the c level. But she lies and has hidden agendas (herself!) so that's a clusterfunk too.

Maybe she sucks, but not because she's female. Just because she's a bad boss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

ditto here.
my boss's neighbor basically raises her kids - picks them up from school, watches them, drives them places....my boss is ALWAYS working. Weekends, nights, ALWAYS. She never takes time off to be with her family beyond the one week in the summer. It sounds miserable, but she also expects the same from me. I'm pregnant. Not going to be my life, that's for sure. She doesn't expect that from men, though, who get to leave early to pick their kids up from day care and all that. Not us. It's awesome.
Men, in my experience, just don't want to know. As long as you are doing your work, they TEND to be fine with whatever is going on. Women feel like "well I had to sacrifice, so you do too".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

ditto here.
my boss's neighbor basically raises her kids - picks them up from school, watches them, drives them places....my boss is ALWAYS working. Weekends, nights, ALWAYS. She never takes time off to be with her family beyond the one week in the summer. It sounds miserable, but she also expects the same from me. I'm pregnant. Not going to be my life, that's for sure. She doesn't expect that from men, though, who get to leave early to pick their kids up from day care and all that. Not us. It's awesome.
Men, in my experience, just don't want to know. As long as you are doing your work, they TEND to be fine with whatever is going on. Women feel like "well I had to sacrifice, so you do too".

+1 most of the time. Although I have had one exceptional female boss that was very family friendly. She happened to be younger than the other female bosses I've had so she also valued work life balance. A lot of it is generational. A lot of the women trail blazers HAD to make huge sacrifices and just don't understand those of us that have different priorities. They are amazing in their own right but not really a good management fit for me.

[Anonymous]

and this thread just got really depressing - so if you want to have a family and are a woman, suck it up - you will never be successful

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and have never had a woman as a boss, sometimes I feel like it is hopeless to think I will ever move up! I am good at what I do and have always had great performance evals, but I feel like I am always treated like I am their daughter. In addition I have 2 awesome children, this means that I do take time off to be with them sometimes and would never give that up because their childhood is just too short.

Do women really have to choose between being a woman with a family and their career? Please tell me if you haven't! How did you do it?

I am doing both. The secret? A husband who has a lower powered career that he's not too interested in, so he has leave available and is willing to take time off for kid stuff. And when they are all younger than 5, a full time nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

+1

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

ditto here.
my boss's neighbor basically raises her kids - picks them up from school, watches them, drives them places....my boss is ALWAYS working. Weekends, nights, ALWAYS. She never takes time off to be with her family beyond the one week in the summer. It sounds miserable, but she also expects the same from me. I'm pregnant. Not going to be my life, that's for sure. She doesn't expect that from men, though, who get to leave early to pick their kids up from day care and all that. Not us. It's awesome.
Men, in my experience, just don't want to know. As long as you are doing your work, they TEND to be fine with whatever is going on. Women feel like "well I had to sacrifice, so you do too".

+1 most of the time. Although I have had one exceptional female boss that was very family friendly. She happened to be younger than the other female bosses I've had so she also valued work life balance. A lot of it is generational. A lot of the women trail blazers HAD to make huge sacrifices and just don't understand those of us that have different priorities. They are amazing in their own right but not really a good management fit for me.

I agree that this problem is more common with older female bosses (say, 50+). They likely had to sacrifice more (many I have known didn't have kids, or outsourced basically everything) and expect the same from their employees. Younger female bosses tend to be more understanding as they may have been the recipients of understanding regarding work-life balance.

[Anonymous]

I have had some very good women bosses. Most have not had children, though. But they were very much up for mentoring me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

+1

+2

piling on. +3
sad but true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

+1

+2

piling on. +3
sad but true.

+4 although my current boss is a middle aged man and he is ridiculous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and have never had a woman as a boss, sometimes I feel like it is hopeless to think I will ever move up! I am good at what I do and have always had great performance evals, but I feel like I am always treated like I am their daughter. In addition I have 2 awesome children, this means that I do take time off to be with them sometimes and would never give that up because their childhood is just too short.

Do women really have to choose between being a woman with a family and their career? Please tell me if you haven't! How did you do it?

The only time I tell my boss that I am taking off to be with my kids is when I am taking child related Sick Leave that need to be approved.
Otherwise, my boss knows very little about my personal life and she doesn't give a rat's ass about my kids. Why should she?

Do you say "awesome children" out loud at work???

Your boss sucks. I am very senior in my organization. The number 2. I call my kids awesome all the time. I know the names of all of our employees' children or at least know something about them and my organization is large. With that being said, I expect the work to get done and quite frankly, if someone can work from home if the kid is sick, I expect it. I generally don't give a damn about the kids. I expect the work to get done. I work 24/7. It doesn't have to be either/or.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the only time I, a woman, had problems at work was when my boss was a woman. She sacrificed to get to where she was and expected the same of others.

+1

+2

She expected you to be a hard worker?

I think,you expect a female boss to be easy on you because you both share a vagina, that's not the case. I hate when people say "oh, you should be family friendly because you are a woman"

No, people should be family friendly because they are managers. Doesn't matter what is between your legs.