Middle School after Colvin Run

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

+10,000 Couldn't agree more.

So, what is your solution to increase the student body at Cooper to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow? Transfer the rest of Franklin Sherman and Chesterbrook to the Langley pyrimid?

I would assume that would be a first step. FCPS is always saying they are trying to get rid of split feeders. That seems like a no-brainer. They could then put FS AAP in Churchill Road instead of Haycock.

I don't think either of these things will happen. The AAP kids in the Langley pyramid will get moved out of Kilmer and Longfellow instead, and the "Westbriar Island" will get moved from Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall to Colvin Run/Cooper/Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

+10,000 Couldn't agree more.

So, what is your solution to increase the student body at Cooper to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow? Transfer the rest of Franklin Sherman and Chesterbrook to the Langley pyrimid?

I would assume that would be a first step. FCPS is always saying they are trying to get rid of split feeders. That seems like a no-brainer. They could then put FS AAP in Churchill Road instead of Haycock.

I don't think either of these things will happen. The AAP kids in the Langley pyramid will get moved out of Kilmer and Longfellow instead, and the "Westbriar Island" will get moved from Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall to Colvin Run/Cooper/Langley.

I think this makes the most sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

+10,000 Couldn't agree more.

So, what is your solution to increase the student body at Cooper to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow? Transfer the rest of Franklin Sherman and Chesterbrook to the Langley pyrimid?

Not the OP, but my solution would be to drastically decrease the AAP population coming from the elementary schools in the first place. Then there would be no overcrowding, and no need for another ridiculous center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

How is that viable when there is such a large contingent of politically active and connected parents wanting it for their child?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

So overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program to accommodate overcrowding in two MS schools is viable? It is much easier to open another Center, especially when it would also allow more children to go to the neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

So overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program to accommodate overcrowding in two MS schools is viable? It is much easier to open another Center, especially when it would also allow more children to go to the neighborhood school.

Yes, that's the sensible solution: open yet another center so that even more kids who don't need it can be in AAP. "Overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program" is exactly what is called for. It's become a runaway train, completely out of control. And in reponse to the PP who asked how this would be done when there are so many "connected" parents who are demanding AAP for their children: too bad! FCPS needs to find a backbone and reform this situation so that only the truly "gifted" kids receive special services, period (and of course, special needs kids on the other end of the spectrum). All the rest need to be in Gen Ed, and Gen Ed also needs a drastic overhaul.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

So overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program to accommodate overcrowding in two MS schools is viable? It is much easier to open another Center, especially when it would also allow more children to go to the neighborhood school.

Yes, that's the sensible solution: open yet another center so that even more kids who don't need it can be in AAP. "Overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program" is exactly what is called for. It's become a runaway train, completely out of control. And in reponse to the PP who asked how this would be done when there are so many "connected" parents who are demanding AAP for their children: too bad! FCPS needs to find a backbone and reform this situation so that only the truly "gifted" kids receive special services, period (and of course, special needs kids on the other end of the spectrum). All the rest need to be in Gen Ed, and Gen Ed also needs a drastic overhaul.

Special needs children can be found at all parts of the spectrum- even the gifted end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

So overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program to accommodate overcrowding in two MS schools is viable? It is much easier to open another Center, especially when it would also allow more children to go to the neighborhood school.

Yes, that's the sensible solution: open yet another center so that even more kids who don't need it can be in AAP. "Overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program" is exactly what is called for. It's become a runaway train, completely out of control. And in reponse to the PP who asked how this would be done when there are so many "connected" parents who are demanding AAP for their children: too bad! FCPS needs to find a backbone and reform this situation so that only the truly "gifted" kids receive special services, period (and of course, special needs kids on the other end of the spectrum). All the rest need to be in Gen Ed, and Gen Ed also needs a drastic overhaul.

Okay, assuming that the School Board gets a backbone and significantly decreases AAP enrollment. Are you suggestioning that they kick out the majority of children currently in AAP? Otherwise, the enrollment issues at Longfellow and Kilmer would not get resolved until the current 3rd grade enters HS- in seven years. How do you propose alleviating the overcrowding in the mean time?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

So overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program to accommodate overcrowding in two MS schools is viable? It is much easier to open another Center, especially when it would also allow more children to go to the neighborhood school.

Yes, that's the sensible solution: open yet another center so that even more kids who don't need it can be in AAP. "Overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program" is exactly what is called for. It's become a runaway train, completely out of control. And in reponse to the PP who asked how this would be done when there are so many "connected" parents who are demanding AAP for their children: too bad! FCPS needs to find a backbone and reform this situation so that only the truly "gifted" kids receive special services, period (and of course, special needs kids on the other end of the spectrum). All the rest need to be in Gen Ed, and Gen Ed also needs a drastic overhaul.

Okay, assuming that the School Board gets a backbone and significantly decreases AAP enrollment. Are you suggestioning that they kick out the majority of children currently in AAP? Otherwise, the enrollment issues at Longfellow and Kilmer would not get resolved until the current 3rd grade enters HS- in seven years. How do you propose alleviating the overcrowding in the mean time?

The kids currently in AAP, at least grades 3-5, need to be retested. The past few years of AAP admissions have been a complete sham. While I know reevaluation isn't really going to happen, that's the only way to decrease the currrent AAP class sizes and hope for less overcrowding at the centers. Otherwise, I really don't know what to tell you other than this mess is on FCPS and they are responsible for sorting it out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cooper does not currently have AAP. That will post certainly change in the next 1-5 years- probably closer to the one year than 5. Longfellow is at capacity and it expected to grow. Cooper is under capacity and expected to shrink. Kilmer is also over populated and predicted to grow.

I sincerely hope that Cooper does not become a center. It's a great school just as it is. When is this AAP madness going to stop?

I feel exactly the same way.

So, what is your (viable) solution to relieve the over crowding at Longfellow and Kilmer when Cooper is underenrolled?

Not the PP, but agree with the other poster who suggested drastically reducing the number of kids admitted to elementary school AAP, which would directly impact the population at middle school centers; a huge reduction, thus no overcrowding. Very simple and matter-of-fact and should have been implemented several years ago. AAP was never intended to educate huge amounts of kids who should be in Gen Ed classes instead.

So overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program to accommodate overcrowding in two MS schools is viable? It is much easier to open another Center, especially when it would also allow more children to go to the neighborhood school.

Yes, that's the sensible solution: open yet another center so that even more kids who don't need it can be in AAP. "Overhauling the ENTIRE AAP program" is exactly what is called for. It's become a runaway train, completely out of control. And in reponse to the PP who asked how this would be done when there are so many "connected" parents who are demanding AAP for their children: too bad! FCPS needs to find a backbone and reform this situation so that only the truly "gifted" kids receive special services, period (and of course, special needs kids on the other end of the spectrum). All the rest need to be in Gen Ed, and Gen Ed also needs a drastic overhaul.

Okay, assuming that the School Board gets a backbone and significantly decreases AAP enrollment. Are you suggestioning that they kick out the majority of children currently in AAP? Otherwise, the enrollment issues at Longfellow and Kilmer would not get resolved until the current 3rd grade enters HS- in seven years. How do you propose alleviating the overcrowding in the mean time?

The kids currently in AAP, at least grades 3-5, need to be retested. The past few years of AAP admissions have been a complete sham. While I know reevaluation isn't really going to happen, that's the only way to decrease the currrent AAP class sizes and hope for less overcrowding at the centers. Otherwise, I really don't know what to tell you other than this mess is on FCPS and they are responsible for sorting it out.

So, until FCPS reduces the number of AAP students (and even if they don't) have Cooper take ALL their inbound students Gen ED, AAP or whatever. Leaving Cooper under enrolled and Longfellow and Kilmer overenrolled until it is sorted out is unrealistic.

[Anonymous]

I've seen the complaint here that AAP placement has gone ridiculously high the past few years. I've also seen data here that suggests the past 5 years' placement has been consistent and varying by only 1-3% or similar. So which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the complaint here that AAP placement has gone ridiculously high the past few years. I've also seen data here that suggests the past 5 years' placement has been consistent and varying by only 1-3% or similar. So which is it?

The former (ridiculously high).