Grade 4/5 Compacted Math FAQ

[Anonymous]

I heard that somehow, in my daughter's home elementary school (she's in the HGC for 5th) the principal is teaching math to 5th graders. Not sure which level

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is appalling. Having an elementary aged kid start school an hour earlier and go to a middle school building simply to get the appropriate level of instruction is pathetic. Way to motivate the high achieving student - not.

I don't know, every kid I know who had advanced math in middle school loved it. They got to take the bus to middle school and hang out with some of the older kids.

I get what you are saying, but in those situations kids were going to middle school in order to do "advanced" math. Here it is elementary kids going to middle school in order to get elementary math! A school should provide elem math in elem school. If you are so advanced that you need middle school math, then fine, go to a middle school as a choice for advancement. That is not what's happening here and it is a disservice to these kids in my opinion.

I agree. They are being taught elementary school level math and there are a lot of kids who were accepted for the program. It seems like it could be handled in the elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

[Anonymous]

I don't predict this current situation will continue for many years...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't predict this current situation will continue for many years...

What will change?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

Most of you had no idea this program was going on. Now that you know you want to know why little Johnnie wasn't selected. then you will lawyer up and delay the entire program and the kids who are in it will not get to do what they were selected for by teachers who see them work everyday and felt they were equiped to handle it while others were not selected, deal with it, your kid might not be the smartest kid like you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

Most of you had no idea this program was going on. Now that you know you want to know why little Johnnie wasn't selected. then you will lawyer up and delay the entire program and the kids who are in it will not get to do what they were selected for by teachers who see them work everyday and felt they were equiped to handle it while others were not selected, deal with it, your kid might not be the smartest kid like you think.

My kid was selected, actually. I just think that MCPS would be in a better position if they tested everyone rather than pre-selecting who to test. Just like they make it clear that the HGC application process is open to all third graders even children who have not been identified as gifted.

[Anonymous]

11:38 here..I predict the compacted classes will not take place in middle school. The number of kids in it will increase (you can see parents already questioning why there child was not selected) and it will be offered in every school...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

Most of you had no idea this program was going on. Now that you know you want to know why little Johnnie wasn't selected. then you will lawyer up and delay the entire program and the kids who are in it will not get to do what they were selected for by teachers who see them work everyday and felt they were equiped to handle it while others were not selected, deal with it, your kid might not be the smartest kid like you think.

My kid was selected, actually. I just think that MCPS would be in a better position if they tested everyone rather than pre-selecting who to test. Just like they make it clear that the HGC application process is open to all third graders even children who have not been identified as gifted.

The "preselection" you're referring to WAS part of the "test". There were indicators prior to the test questions that determined whether or not this class would be appropriate for students. They were weighted the same as the actual test questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

Most of you had no idea this program was going on. Now that you know you want to know why little Johnnie wasn't selected. then you will lawyer up and delay the entire program and the kids who are in it will not get to do what they were selected for by teachers who see them work everyday and felt they were equiped to handle it while others were not selected, deal with it, your kid might not be the smartest kid like you think.

My kid was selected, actually. I just think that MCPS would be in a better position if they tested everyone rather than pre-selecting who to test. Just like they make it clear that the HGC application process is open to all third graders even children who have not been identified as gifted.

The "preselection" you're referring to WAS part of the "test". There were indicators prior to the test questions that determined whether or not this class would be appropriate for students. They were weighted the same as the actual test questions.

That is true but some schools tested all third graders and some did not. I think that that kind of preselection is what got MCPS in trouble re the HGC application process previously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

Most of you had no idea this program was going on. Now that you know you want to know why little Johnnie wasn't selected. then you will lawyer up and delay the entire program and the kids who are in it will not get to do what they were selected for by teachers who see them work everyday and felt they were equiped to handle it while others were not selected, deal with it, your kid might not be the smartest kid like you think.

Good grief. School has started and compacted math is underway, at least at my kid's school. It's not being delayed. You win DCUM Overreaction Post of the Day. By the way, other parents are allowed to ask questions about the process. That's not a threat to you. Try not to worry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now there will be a rush of parents who call the school asking why their kids wasn't selected.

It might be a reasonable question in some cases.

Most of you had no idea this program was going on. Now that you know you want to know why little Johnnie wasn't selected. then you will lawyer up and delay the entire program and the kids who are in it will not get to do what they were selected for by teachers who see them work everyday and felt they were equiped to handle it while others were not selected, deal with it, your kid might not be the smartest kid like you think.

My kid was selected, actually. I just think that MCPS would be in a better position if they tested everyone rather than pre-selecting who to test. Just like they make it clear that the HGC application process is open to all third graders even children who have not been identified as gifted.

The "preselection" you're referring to WAS part of the "test". There were indicators prior to the test questions that determined whether or not this class would be appropriate for students. They were weighted the same as the actual test questions.

That is true but some schools tested all third graders and some did not. I think that that kind of preselection is what got MCPS in trouble re the HGC application process previously.

+1 Why play games? Just administer a test.

[Anonymous]

Especially since there is a test it doesn't make sense not to give it to everyone.