Government Secretly Obtained AP's Phone Records

[Anonymous]

Let's see Benghazi is a drummed up controversy, the dumb Repubs can't even find Libya on the map. The IRS scandal again nothing much, just a bunch of middle aged white men acting like drama queens over two low level IRS employees who were probably just doing their jobs anyway (patterns -- looking for patterns).

The government secretly obtained the AP's phone records? Red alert. All hands on deck. Sound the alarms! We have a serious issue here!

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
Let's see Benghazi is a drummed up controversy, the dumb Repubs can't even find Libya on the map. The IRS scandal again nothing much, just a bunch of middle aged white men acting like drama queens over two low level IRS employees who were probably just doing their jobs anyway (patterns -- looking for patterns).

The government secretly obtained the AP's phone records? Red alert. All hands on deck. Sound the alarms! We have a serious issue here!

Yes, that's about it. Even if you think Benghazi and the IRS are important stories, I don't know why you wouldn't get excited about the Government spying on news agencies. More importantly, the AP story is part of a bigger story of government spying on Americans. The government believes it can access your email without a warrant. All kinds of warrantless wiretapping has gone on.

Just from a strategic viewpoint, if you actually want to create change, why not choose and issue on which the left and right can agree? On the other hand, if you just want to scream and yell and at the end of the day maintain the status quo, continue as you have been.

[Anonymous]

Yes, that's about it. Even if you think Benghazi and the IRS are important stories, I don't know why you wouldn't get excited about the Government spying on news agencies. More importantly, the AP story is part of a bigger story of government spying on Americans. The government believes it can access your email without a warrant. All kinds of warrantless wiretapping has gone on.

Just from a strategic viewpoint, if you actually want to create change, why not choose and issue on which the left and right can agree? On the other hand, if you just want to scream and yell and at the end of the day maintain the status quo, continue as you have been.

Umm. I believe that the AP Phone Records story, warrantless wiretapping, drones, etc. is big and important. Why did you assume otherwise?

Someone who refers to conservatives who care about the IRS story as middle aged white male drama queens probably shouldn't really be lecturing about screaming and yelling (or racial stereotypes either).

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Umm. I believe that the AP Phone Records story, warrantless wiretapping, drones, etc. is big and important. Why did you assume otherwise?

Your sarcasm suggested that those were not serious issues to you. What other purpose did your sarcasm serve?

[jsteele]

On the topic of government eavesdropping on citizens, the government also intercepts your text messages. But, don't worry, they have a 15 page document of guidelines. You can read it here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/141222327/Totally-Redacted-FOIA-response

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Let's see Benghazi is a drummed up controversy, the dumb Repubs can't even find Libya on the map. The IRS scandal again nothing much, just a bunch of middle aged white men acting like drama queens over two low level IRS employees who were probably just doing their jobs anyway (patterns -- looking for patterns).

The government secretly obtained the AP's phone records? Red alert. All hands on deck. Sound the alarms! We have a serious issue here!

The press is the watch dog that ostensibly keeps our government honest. Yes I find the idea of the Administration J. Edgar Hoovering them very disturbing.

And yes, Benghazi feels like a drummed up controversy.
The IRS scandal to me is much more serious, but I'm not yet convinced that the Administration has any real responsibility for that. If it's shown that those investigations happened with the encouragement or tacit acceptance of the Administration, that would be very, very alarming as well.

[Anonymous]

The real damage to our country from 9/11 was self inflicted. We voluntarily gave the government spy power over us. Both parties agreed to it.

At the time of its passage, only the liberal fringe seemed to be concerned, and groups like the ACLU. The answer of the day was that good, decent American had nothing to fear. Now, one Democratic President later, some of the right has started to get the idea that yes in fact good, decent Americans can be hurt.

We need to all wake up and recognize this principle. The best way to defend our freedoms is to defend the freedoms for all Americans, even those we disagree with. Anything less just opens the door to wider and wider violations of our rights.

[Anonymous]

Yes, this is going to be Big. So will the IRS story. This is Orwellian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, this is going to be Big. So will the IRS story.

Gosh this all seems so new toyon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy

[Anonymous]

Your sarcasm suggested that those were not serious issues to you. What other purpose did your sarcasm serve?

That when you dismiss conservatives who are concerned about the IRS scandal as middle aged white male drama queens (or what was the other term you used? -- right wing hacks) that perhaps you should look at yourself in the mirror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, this is going to be Big. So will the IRS story.

Gosh this all seems so new toyon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy

and your point is? ..............

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's so bad about it? If AP has nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear - not from the Obama administration anyway. Besides, the constitution is an out dated document written by a bunch of dead white guys; do we even need it now that Obama is president? It ought to be a flexible living document in this case.

I do hope this is sarcasm written by a conservative. If not, then I'm just dying laughing.

[Anonymous]

Patriot act made this sop for doj. Anyone actually remember who didn't vote for that little piece of legislation?

[Anonymous]

Obama, as Senator, of course voted against it. But as President on March 26, 2011 he signed a four year extension reauthorizing much of it.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Let's see Benghazi is a drummed up controversy, the dumb Repubs can't even find Libya on the map. The IRS scandal again nothing much, just a bunch of middle aged white men acting like drama queens over two low level IRS employees who were probably just doing their jobs anyway (patterns -- looking for patterns).

The government secretly obtained the AP's phone records? Red alert. All hands on deck. Sound the alarms! We have a serious issue here!

Yes, that's about it. Even if you think Benghazi and the IRS are important stories, I don't know why you wouldn't get excited about the Government spying on news agencies. More importantly, the AP story is part of a bigger story of government spying on Americans. The government believes it can access your email without a warrant. All kinds of warrantless wiretapping has gone on.

Just from a strategic viewpoint, if you actually want to create change, why not choose and issue on which the left and right can agree? On the other hand, if you just want to scream and yell and at the end of the day maintain the status quo, continue as you have been.

His point is that NOW you recognize the crookedness of this administation? We are years ahead of y'all in this regard so this, while a big deal, comes as no surprise to conservatives