Not to be too obtuse, but why would everyone call the AD's on monday? I mean, if you're in, you would be relieved, so you wouldn't be in a rush, so I assuming it's because you're not in, and in that case, why would you call? Would calling help in any way? I can't imagine it would... |
Yes, it's the people who were rejected who want to appeal, and the people who were wait listed and want to know their chances as well as get themselves on the AD's radar screen, who will call Monday morning. Hopefully they will be calmer after 2 days of thinking about it, talking to their friends who applied, and weighing their acceptances from other schools. |
Yes. Over Mitch McConnell's dead body, also opposition from lots of others on his team. I guess I'm in the camp of thinking that the Post Office cannot be profitable as long as it is required to provide the public service of delivering mail to remote rural areas, especially with email and electronic bill paying. So if we decide that delivering mail to farms in Iowa is a good thing, and I think it is, then USPS will need more public financial support. |
Fact is abot 10% of applicants will call, they will all think that THEY are being super polite, considerate and subtle, and that NOONE before them has though thought of this tact. The poor AD, if she actually picks up her phone for the folowing two weeks or so, is trained like a cop is, by YEARS of experience having heard the same BS, the same schmooze OVER and OVER , until there is no "original tactic" " no subtle advocacy" , but merely the blatantly obvious: I think I'ms so clever, and you have NEVER heard this spin before.... All reason enough, to give these AD's one last weekend of peace. |
I can understand that I guess. But if there was something that could be done, you would have done it before. I started taking my DD to schools 3 years before (going to plays and so forth) so we would have some idea what we liked. We figured out classes in MS and practiced essays the year before. I was diligent about playing an active role all through MS so that I knew the administration and how to get the recommendations through it. We met with the teachers and the guidance counselor often and in person to make sure that she sent the transcripts and so forth. I had spread sheets of what was due when etc. Frankly, I can't see how a single parent could handle the paperwork, especially for more than one school. I set up tests and visits early, so if DD did poorly or was sick, we had a make up day. Heck, my wife even took our DD to get hair cuts and buy outfits before visits. The only thing I didn't do, and this is where I am still a bit nervous, is we didn't try and get any super high name folks to send in references. I just felt that wasn't useful, and I think that we had set our DD up for success, so she had to do the work to go through the door. I'm still torn on this one. She scored 91 on the SSAT, and has all A's on most quarters, so I think she should be ok, but I keep worrying.... Anyhow, I don't see how beating up the AD would help reverse a decision if all of that wasn't enough. I literallly have 100's of hours in this process so I doubt a follow up call will help reverse a decision. |
Let me just say that not everyone starts three years ahead, like you did. In answer to your last para, nobody actually thinks they are "beating up the AD." Everyone thinks they are being subtle and dignified, and that the ADs will not be able to resist this pitch they've never heard before. |
My sympathies are divided. On the one hand, the ADs have some tough decisions to make, and of course they can't make everyone happy. On the other hand, I've seen some really unfair decisions, and I kind of blame them too. |
| 20:30, say more about these unfair decisions. In the pipeline, so curious to know. |
I don't expect PP above to be the type who can stop themselves from micromanaging and planning to that extent, but would be interesting to see if his/her DC's teachers fiind the DC inquestion to be as highly self-motivated as her peers, given parents style of pushing. My guess is the kid might not be as independant as many of her cohorts. Secondly, PP don't you realize that for 99% of applicants its who the parents are . OK, the kids has to have teh scores in HS ( less tru in Pre-K0, but seriously do you think anyone asked ot see Malia's WISC or the Gore Girls SSAT scores. come on. |
I'm not 20:30, but I think it's fair to say that many decisions are totally arbitrary- I don't know if I'd necessarily say unfair. Honestly, how can you judge a 4-5 year old child applying for PK or K? The WPPSI isn't reliable (especially since almost everyone gets 90%+). There is only so much a kid can do to make a negative or positive impression on a 1.5-2 hour playdate. Most teacher recs are biased. The AD only has so many slots to work with after accounting for siblings, faculty children, legacies, etc. It's as much of a crapshoot for the ADs selecting the kids as it is for the parents applying. Also, I think the reason ADs get bombarded with phone calls on Mondays is because most schools tend to waitlist everyone. I don't know which is worse- receiving a letter outright rejecting your child or being strung along to hope your child will be accepted off a waitlist. I really wish the ADs would keep the WLs to a minimum so the WL actually meant something vs. a soft rejection. Kudos to Sidwell for taking this approach. |
we did not experience the wait list. There are schools that reject. I guess my kid was the only reject. |
Hum.... well it is true managing is what I do for a living, so I guess it might feel like I'm micro managing my DD when I talk about the process, but her grades and her SSAT/CHPT are her own, as are her recommendations. Plus, her interview and what happens in it aren't anything I can control. I don't know about the who you are stuff. I thought about that long and hard. We probably could get an intro from some big wig to prove who we are. But if that's what it takes, I don't know that it's what we want to do. I'd rather just be myself. We do work hard to set the kids up to do well, and that's nothing to be ashamed of, and we will continue to be involved parents through the whole process. I look at this as practice for the next round of applications in 4 years, so it's good for DD to own this since she will have to live with it. So, I hope we are in the 1% or whatever that gets in on merit.... |
Not sure where your DD owned much of anything in this process. You took her to events for three years, met with guidance counselors and teachers and bought her outfits and got her haircuts. Don't be surprised if the "unofficial" word on you is that you are the helicopter aren't who schools really try to avoid. If you think that you are going to be able to do the same thing for college, you better start now. You have a lot of colleges to visit and lots of essays and classes to start working on. How about letting your DD enjoy HS for a year or two before you start your process again. |
| "aren't" is supposed to be "parent" |
20:30 here. I don't want to give specifics on families we're friends with who got in, as we did. But as another PP said, it's often about who the parents are, or aren't, because at age 3-4 there isn't a lot of reliable info to go on. I say this not to discourage you but to help you be philosophical about the outcome, which I hope is good. |