Who has a 10YO and saw a heartbeat at 7 weeks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? That 10 yrs technology wasn't there at 7 wks? My sister just saw a HB at 6wk, 4d

That 10 years ago that technology wasn't available. Your sister "just saw it" but would that have been the case in 2002

Yes it would I have a 10 1/2 year old whose heartbeat we saw that early. We were doing an early sonogram because of a previous miscarriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't. My son is 10. I heard the heart beat at 12, didn't have an ultrasound until 20. The vaginal ultrasound wand wasn't around then.

Perhaps it wasn't routinely used for pregnancy? Because I had a vaginal ultrasound in March of 2002 -- 10 years ago.

[Anonymous]

I have a 10 year old and saw as well as heard the heartbeat at about 6 weeks. Saw it on the monitor and heard in on the stethoscope. This really is standard medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't. My son is 10. I heard the heart beat at 12, didn't have an ultrasound until 20. The vaginal ultrasound wand wasn't around then.

Yes it was. I had one in 2001 when I was pregnant, son born in January 2002.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? That 10 yrs technology wasn't there at 7 wks? My sister just saw a HB at 6wk, 4d

So present but so removed.
Of course technology was not there and this is the first of his myths busted.

Ok miss know it all - turns out you were dead wrong.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure the media people will truth squad this in the coming days. They'll probably even check into what type of ultrasound equipment was at the specific hospital where Ryan and his wife went.

For his sake, I hope he wasn't stretching the truth on this one, because the public will rake him over the coals if he lied about his infant child's heartbeat.

The flak he took over lying about his marathon race will pale in comparison!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't. My son is 10. I heard the heart beat at 12, didn't have an ultrasound until 20. The vaginal ultrasound wand wasn't around then.

Vaginal ultrasound was around more than 10 years ago. Where we're you???

[Anonymous]

Where were you???

[Anonymous]

It is unbelievable that anyone believes there was no vaginal ultrasound in 2002. 2002 not 1922. WTH!?
Of course there was vaginal US. And you can see the heartbeat at 6 weeks. Plus/minus a few days.

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I did in 2006. I doubt that was a lie. For the record, I can't stand Paul Ryan and believe that he lies about most things. But let's focus on his actual lies - there's a lot to choose from...Medicare, the deficit, his supposed interest in bipartisanship, his alleged tax plan, Libya, etc etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? That 10 yrs technology wasn't there at 7 wks? My sister just saw a HB at 6wk, 4d

So present but so removed.
Of course technology was not there and this is the first of his myths busted.

Ok miss know it all - turns out you were dead wrong.

Maybe she didn't have her baby in this country?

Or perhaps she did not have prenatal care until a couple of months into the pregnancy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did in 2006. I doubt that was a lie. For the record, I can't stand Paul Ryan and believe that he lies about most things. But let's focus on his actual lies - there's a lot to choose from...Medicare, the deficit, his supposed interest in bipartisanship, his alleged tax plan, Libya, etc etc.

I totally agree. Even if he went home and got slapped upside the head by Mrs. Ryan saying "sevenTEEN weeks you doofus" it wouldn't be a big deal to me.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who even thinks it's possible that vaginal ultrasound did not exist 10 years ago (or 20 years ago) Is INCREDIBLY CLUELESS.

[Anonymous]

Different take: There are a lot of things that differentiate humans from animals, but a heartbeat? Ever notice that dogs have them too? And cats? And RATS! So this is the basis for his forcing his pro-life position on all the women in the country?

Bravo to Biden for distinguishing between his private religious beliefs and his role as a member of a government representing people of all beliefs.

[Anonymous]

As you can see below, transvaginal scanners have been around since 1988. Also, regular ultrasound is able to pick up a heartbeat at 7 weeks.


http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/history2.html




Despite the advantages of transvaginal scans, its use had waited almost 20 years to become practical and popular in gynecological scanning. Athough the need and technology were there, the really practical real-time transvaginal scanning probe was not "invented" until 1985 when KretzTechnik® of Austria produced their first real-time mechanical vaginal sector scanner. The transducer had a scan angle of 240 degrees and was designed with the use for transvaginal ovum retrieval in mind, in collaborations with IVF pioneers Wilfried Feichtinger and Peter Kemeter in Austria. The coming of such mechanical devices was also in part the outcome of advances in microprocessor controller circuitry and ferro-magnetics resulting in much smaller and more efficient motors.


Dutch manufacturer Philips® followed on with one of the earliest mechanical vaginal scanners in the second half of 1986. The probe was in the shape of a microphone with a roundish elongated head housing a 5MHz 13mm wobbler transducer. It could be retro-fitted onto their real-time scanner SDR 1550 which first debuted in 1985. Although they produced excellent images compared to their abdominal counterpart, mechanical endovaginal designs were not favored by many ultrasound manufacturers, partly because of the vibration that was generated.

Mechanical designs were rapidly followed by electronic array versions which are rather like a reduced-size abdominal convex sector transducer that has appeared around the same time from other manufacturers in Japan. ALOKA® produced an electronic sector version which could be retofitted onto their older model the SSD-256. GE Medical Systems® produced their first endovaginal probe to fit their RT3200 in mid 1987. By 1988 most manufacturers had endovaginal options installed in their scanners.



The advent of tranvaginal scanning (at higher frequencies of 5 - 8 MHz and resulting in much finer resolution) had a significant impact on the diagnosis of gynecological and early pregnancy pathologies. In particular the accurate recognition of fetal cardiac pulsations in missed abortions was facilitated at an early gestational age of 6 weeks.