Stressed about election

Anonymous
As I've gotten older, I've found that I'm a lot less stressed if I don't internalize these kinds of things. Doesn't mean I don't care. Doesn't mean I won't vote. I just don't shout from the rooftops anymore like I did when I was younger. And I'm a lot happier now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you hate America, vote Obama.


You misspelled Romney.

Willard Mitt "Believe in America but Invest Elsewhere" Romney.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you hate America, vote Obama.


If this douchebag sounds like someone you would hang out with, vote for Romney.
Anonymous
Here is my take. I will tell you up front I am an Obama voter. I don't think the President can actually influence the economy as much as the media and others credity him for. Congress has an equal if not bigger role in passing legislation. The debt crisis is not being solved by either party. The simplified the R's keep trying to cut from the smallest piece of the pie, discretionary spending, i.e. the federal bureaucracy. Even if you got rid of the entire federal gov't, you wouldn't solve the problem. The larger issues are Medicare, SS and defense spending and the R's aren't willing to open up the defense budget. The D's on the other hand aren't willing to look at the social programs. Eventually we are going to have to cut from everywhere and raise taxes, but no one is willing to say that. It will have to happen no matter who is in office.

The power that the President does have is the power of appointment. For me the most important is the Supreme Court. I don't want another Alito or Scalia on the court. I don't agree with their judiical philosophy and don't want to see the court move even more to the right.

Foreign policy. I don't necessarily agree with everything Obama has done, I think he is more measured and thoughtful than Romney. I honestly believe that a President Romney would have us go to war with Iran. I'm Jewish and I've heard tons of criticism of Obama with respect to Israel. I know many Jews who only vote Israel alone and they uniformly believe that Romney would be a better friend to Israel, which means supporting Bibi at all costs. That said, I also know plenty of Jews who support Israel but are highly critical of Bibi.

I also don't like the direction the R's have taken with respect to religion. In the R party there is too much blending of church and state. There is too much religion and mention of god for my taste. I want an 800 foot steel reinforced wall between church and state. The R's have a picket fence right now. Their polices from denying global warming, to teaching "intelligent design" to supporting conscience laws where pharmacists can refuse to give women birth control or Plan B based on their religious objections, make my skin crawl.

I could go on about lots of other things but I'll stop there.




Anonymous
If you are a self- loathing white person , vote for Obama.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is my take. I will tell you up front I am an Obama voter. I don't think the President can actually influence the economy as much as the media and others credity him for. Congress has an equal if not bigger role in passing legislation. The debt crisis is not being solved by either party. The simplified the R's keep trying to cut from the smallest piece of the pie, discretionary spending, i.e. the federal bureaucracy. Even if you got rid of the entire federal gov't, you wouldn't solve the problem. The larger issues are Medicare, SS and defense spending and the R's aren't willing to open up the defense budget. The D's on the other hand aren't willing to look at the social programs. Eventually we are going to have to cut from everywhere and raise taxes, but no one is willing to say that. It will have to happen no matter who is in office.

The power that the President does have is the power of appointment. For me the most important is the Supreme Court. I don't want another Alito or Scalia on the court. I don't agree with their judiical philosophy and don't want to see the court move even more to the right.

Foreign policy. I don't necessarily agree with everything Obama has done, I think he is more measured and thoughtful than Romney. I honestly believe that a President Romney would have us go to war with Iran. I'm Jewish and I've heard tons of criticism of Obama with respect to Israel. I know many Jews who only vote Israel alone and they uniformly believe that Romney would be a better friend to Israel, which means supporting Bibi at all costs. That said, I also know plenty of Jews who support Israel but are highly critical of Bibi.

I also don't like the direction the R's have taken with respect to religion. In the R party there is too much blending of church and state. There is too much religion and mention of god for my taste. I want an 800 foot steel reinforced wall between church and state. The R's have a picket fence right now. Their polices from denying global warming, to teaching "intelligent design" to supporting conscience laws where pharmacists can refuse to give women birth control or Plan B based on their religious objections, make my skin crawl.

I could go on about lots of other things but I'll stop there.






Which is why the economy imploded under the 2006-2008 fully democrat congress.
Anonymous
This article by Andrew Sullivan sums up why I'm happy to vote for Obama again this year, despite a seemingly lackluster term. It's a long game, and I think a scond term will be a signal to the R's that they need to pay ball. Obama has proven that he is willing to work with R's, but not willing to be steamrolled.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/09/23/andrew-sullivan-on-the-promise-of-obama-s-second-term.html

Not that my vote really matters here in DC. Three piddly electoral votes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, what concerns you about Obama?


Admittedly now, I don't know every political issue through and through. So I might show some of my ignorance here. I'm not a fan of his green initiatives. I'm not necessarily one of those "There's no such thing as global warming!" people and I do think we need to do something about the environment. The green initiatives seem to just have been huge wastes of time and resources though, with minimal benefits. I think he made some really poor choices with his cabinet- specifically, Eric Holder. Was the war in Libya necessary? Does he cater too much to Israel? (Full disclosure: I need to make it a point to read up more about Israel and our position with them and how this affects our relationships with other countries. Same with the UN. I know way too little about these issues.) Selfishly, I know my family will personally be negatively affected by his tax plan. That's not a deal breaker for me, it just sucks. I worry that he will raise taxes but will not cut enough in terms of spending to make much of a difference, so that we'll be swimming in debt (thanks to the cost of war and Obamacare) AND paying high taxes. I took a test at isidewith.com and it told me I side most with Jill Stein. Socially, I'm liberal. Legalize gay marriage, legalize marijuana, all of that's cool. Fiscally, I think I'm a little more conservative.


If catering to Israel really troubles you, then Obama is a far better choice than Romney.
Anonymous
If you applaud the spread of radical Islam ...vote Obama.
Anonymous
I am a member of the 5% and am voting for Obama. I could go into a long list, but here is the short and sweet: Obama's campaign is called Obama for America and the other is Romney for President. Fairly easy to tell who is for the country and who is for the 1%.
Anonymous
I agree with those who urge you to vote. None of us can predict the future, so it's a bit of a crap shoot for all of us. I'd say that a lot of people, probably including me, vote in a knee-jerk way. As a Virginia voter, your vote can actually make a difference, and as someone who is taking a serious look at the candidates and the issues, you are probably more likely than most to make a reasonable decision.

As one who is not totally happy with Obama, I tend to forgive him somewhat on grounds that the President is limited in his choices, by the inertia of governmental organism itself, by the Congress, and by the fact that he represents all of us. Keep in mind what the President can truly affect, and among those things, try to separate out those where we actually know enough to judge what is the right choice (for me, that pretty much excludes the economy, which nobody really understands), and make your decision based on what remains, such as the Supreme Court appointments and a perhaps a few other things (none of which I can think of offhand).

One other thing. Although I will probably vote for Obama (unless, as a DC voter, I decide to make a "statement"), I don't think you should place too much weight on the fact that the only pro-Romney comments so far have been asinine; they all come from the same air-head. There are thoughtful conservatives on DCUM, and perhaps you'll hear from some of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you applaud the spread of radical Islam ...vote Obama.


If you would drink a beer with this pp, vote for Romney.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is my take. I will tell you up front I am an Obama voter. I don't think the President can actually influence the economy as much as the media and others credity him for. Congress has an equal if not bigger role in passing legislation. The debt crisis is not being solved by either party. The simplified the R's keep trying to cut from the smallest piece of the pie, discretionary spending, i.e. the federal bureaucracy. Even if you got rid of the entire federal gov't, you wouldn't solve the problem. The larger issues are Medicare, SS and defense spending and the R's aren't willing to open up the defense budget. The D's on the other hand aren't willing to look at the social programs. Eventually we are going to have to cut from everywhere and raise taxes, but no one is willing to say that. It will have to happen no matter who is in office.

The power that the President does have is the power of appointment. For me the most important is the Supreme Court. I don't want another Alito or Scalia on the court. I don't agree with their judiical philosophy and don't want to see the court move even more to the right.

Foreign policy. I don't necessarily agree with everything Obama has done, I think he is more measured and thoughtful than Romney. I honestly believe that a President Romney would have us go to war with Iran. I'm Jewish and I've heard tons of criticism of Obama with respect to Israel. I know many Jews who only vote Israel alone and they uniformly believe that Romney would be a better friend to Israel, which means supporting Bibi at all costs. That said, I also know plenty of Jews who support Israel but are highly critical of Bibi.

I also don't like the direction the R's have taken with respect to religion. In the R party there is too much blending of church and state. There is too much religion and mention of god for my taste. I want an 800 foot steel reinforced wall between church and state. The R's have a picket fence right now. Their polices from denying global warming, to teaching "intelligent design" to supporting conscience laws where pharmacists can refuse to give women birth control or Plan B based on their religious objections, make my skin crawl.

I could go on about lots of other things but I'll stop there.






Which is why the economy imploded under the 2006-2008 fully democrat congress.


Yes, Congress managed to tank the entire economy between January 21 of 2007 and April of 2007, when the first major mortgage lender declared bankruptcy.

If you think that Nancy Pelosi is capable of creating a meltdown in 90 days, you should pull for her because she is the most powerful politician in the history of America. Because under Republican control, the house Republicans can't pass a resolution to order pizza for lunch.

Anonymous
Seriously OP. Eric Holder is a conservative prosecutor's dream. Not since Richard Thornburgh under Reagan has the DOJ been under a more insanely conservative helm. He has has taken the DOJ backwards towards almost a pre-Miranda environment of police powers of interrogation and surveillance. You may not know this but traditionally, Attorneys Generals appointed by Dems have been pro-human rights and they would bring cases against states and individuals for infringing on federally protected civil rights--they would also attack criminal enterpriseses for tax violation under RICO statutes, etc...But Holder?! Holder runs the DOJ like a staunch Republican. Civil rights cases have slowed to a crawl--the DOJ actually now brings cases to federal court seeking to BROADEN police powers and fill the prisons with more inmates than ever. Miranda has never been weaker. I find it so perplexing that no one takes him to task for this--I think as a black appointee under a Dem prez, people just assume he's a liberal--he is anything but...but then neither is Obama for that matter.
Anonymous
^^my point is, if you are a conservative dem or a moderate Republican--Holder is your guy. Yeah, Geithner is way more of a loose cannon at Treasury, IMO and Obama will rightly dump him or politely ask him to resign soon after inauguration.
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