Where are all the old school Obama supports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's Sunday, many may be in church praying for a miracle, since polling data projects a Romney victory. Obama favorables are sinking, Clinton can't save himat this point.

What polling data is that? Other than Rasmussen, virtually every poll has Obama ahead. Romney has never had a realistic shot at winning and now, following his bounceless convention, he has even less of a chance

Probably the fact that they can't escape the MOE is why you'll see textbook desperation this week, rebutted by factual substance, rather than just school yard whining al week by the DNC's talking points.

So far factual substance has not been kind to your kind.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Gallup

Obama 47% - Romney 46%

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gallup

Obama 47% - Romney 46%

Kerry and Carter generally enjoyed that view from the top as well...

[Anonymous]

I am here. Obama has my vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am here. Obama has my vote.

Yes, but the undeniable reality is that if you asked 10 of your neighbors who voted for him in 08, you'd probably only find 5 with the courage to admit he's getting their vote again. People will generally poll left eg politically correct, but vote right or right of center, gay rights is the classic example. To your face they'd say that they believe in civil unions and rights, etc., but many will vote to protect the thousand year old definition of marriage in the privacy of the voting booth.

[Anonymous]

I highly doubt that. Many people who voted for him in 2008 are also voting for him again. At least my neighbors are.

[Anonymous]

Obama has my vote. I would blame him more if the Republican Congress had not announced at the start of his term that their main goal was to make sure he did not succeed. I would be more likely to place more blame on him if House Members had even pretended to work with the President.

The funny thing is that if Romney had run as the Moderate from Massachusetts, I would have considered voting for him.

At this point, I have no idea which of his positions are set in stone, other than "less regulation" and a "smaller federal government." Even then, I don't know what kind of regulation he wants to cut or which agencies he wants to ax. If he doesn't want the federal government to pick winners and losers, I assume he will cut the Small Business Administration, do away with set aside contracts for certain businesses and cut the budget of the Commerce Department.

[Anonymous]

Many good points made above. I have been disappointed the last few years, but see it as Obama's fault only to a very small degree. Obstructionist Republicans in Congress have far more to answer for.

And I also agree with PP that Romney would have had a more realistic shot if he hadn't gone off the deep right end. Same problem McCain had, except it was even more disappointing in his case, because at least he used to be a principled and honest man, before the RNC machine got a hold of him. It's not as if they would lose the far-right vote by presenting themselves as moderates, but they would have gained the center, especially in a bad economy when voters are more willing to consider the challenger. I don't understand the strategy.

As for my neighbors... HA! I live east of the park in DC. I don't think there's a Romney supporter anywhere within a mile of my house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am here. Obama has my vote.

Yes, but the undeniable reality is that if you asked 10 of your neighbors who voted for him in 08, you'd probably only find 5 with the courage to admit he's getting their vote again. People will generally poll left eg politically correct, but vote right or right of center, gay rights is the classic example. To your face they'd say that they believe in civil unions and rights, etc., but many will vote to protect the thousand year old definition of marriage in the privacy of the voting booth.

This is you, not everyone else. People who think like you are the dinosaurs and are nearing extinction. And if I had more energy, I'd have a lot to say about your whole, "the thousand year old definition of marriage" thing, but in short, marriage was about property (as in women were property) and economics.

[Anonymous]

He definitely has my vote and that of many others that I know.

[Anonymous]

I'm here- he has my vote - I just sent another $15 in. Not significant, but I know it adds up. I'm a former Republican who likes a lot of fiscal conservative ideas, but cannot and will not vote for a party beholden to a ridiculous social agenda, among other stupid ideas the GOP has right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's Sunday, many may be in church praying for a miracle, since polling data projects a Romney victory. Obama favorables are sinking, Clinton can't save himat this point.

You're plainly not paying attention to the polling data. This election will likely be closer than was 2008, but Romney is still trailing in nearly every poll and has received no discernible convention bounce. Nate Silver, who predicted the popular vote exactly and was only off by one state (Indiana) in the Electoral College in 2008, puts Obama's chances at reelection at 73%. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/sept-1-romneys-convention-bounce-appears-middling-so-far/ Rasmussen, by the way, has a track record of favoring the GOP (so much so that it is discounted by Silver and others). Historically, it has discounted actual Democratic performance by 4-5 points. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

The bottom line is that Romney is a bad candidate. He ran for the Senate to the left of Ted Kennedy. He was pro choice, pro gun control and spearheaded Romneycare as governor. All of this is a nonstarter in the current GOP, so he's had to abandon his record. He can't even run on "saving the Olympics," as he did that with bailout from Uncle Sam. Notice how not a single GOP convention speaker was able to talk much about Romney? If he was the same guy he was when he was governor, I might consider voting for him (though he never would've survived the primary). As it stands, he's probably the weakest candidate put forward by a major party in a generation. Couple this with the fact that the GOP platform is extremist (and this is coming from someone who used to consider himself a Republican), and the GOP is giving away a presidential election that should be theirs for the taking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gallup

Gallup has Obama up 1: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

So, not sure what you're talking about.

Intrade has Obama winning pretty much by a landslide.

And, more devastatingly for Romney, Obama leads in 13 of the 16 toss-up states. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's Sunday, many may be in church praying for a miracle, since polling data projects a Romney victory. Obama favorables are sinking, Clinton can't save himat this point.

You're plainly not paying attention to the polling data. This election will likely be closer than was 2008, but Romney is still trailing in nearly every poll and has received no discernible convention bounce. Nate Silver, who predicted the popular vote exactly and was only off by one state (Indiana) in the Electoral College in 2008, puts Obama's chances at reelection at 73%. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/sept-1-romneys-convention-bounce-appears-middling-so-far/ Rasmussen, by the way, has a track record of favoring the GOP (so much so that it is discounted by Silver and others). Historically, it has discounted actual Democratic performance by 4-5 points. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

The bottom line is that Romney is a bad candidate. He ran for the Senate to the left of Ted Kennedy. He was pro choice, pro gun control and spearheaded Romneycare as governor. All of this is a nonstarter in the current GOP, so he's had to abandon his record. He can't even run on "saving the Olympics," as he did that with bailout from Uncle Sam. Notice how not a single GOP convention speaker was able to talk much about Romney? If he was the same guy he was when he was governor, I might consider voting for him (though he never would've survived the primary). As it stands, he's probably the weakest candidate put forward by a major party in a generation. Couple this with the fact that the GOP platform is extremist (and this is coming from someone who used to consider himself a Republican), and the GOP is giving away a presidential election that should be theirs for the taking.

I could have written this word for word (minus the knowledge in the 1st paragraph - don't have that )

[Anonymous]

Thanks, PP!