Your thoughts on Haycock elementary please
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Anonymous
That's a lot of kids for that school, and considerably more than FCPS projected last year. It's going to increase the pressure for one or more of the following: (1) revising the Haycock boundaries to send in-boundary Haycock kids to Lemon Road (which is being expanded now); (2) sending out-of-boundary AAP kids to other schools or keeping them in local Level IV services; and/or (3) building a very large addition at Haycock when the school is finally renovated. There's some precedent for (3) - when Longfellow MS was renovated a few years ago, the principal (Carole Kihm) lobbied hard and successfully to get more space added than was originally planned so that Longfellow could accommodate all the students she anticipated. |
Anonymous
| At these current enrollments Haycock will still be above its capacity (i.e. overcrowded) once the mythical demolition/ renovation is completed. Something will have to give with the boundaries &/or AAP. |
Anonymous
The plans to renovate and expand Haycock are not "mythical." There's a renovation queue and Haycock is approaching the top of the list. If you think schools in Fairfax are not being built, renovated or replaced, go take a look at Glasgow MS, South County MS, Woodson HS, Edison HS, Marshall HS, Mason Crest ES and Graham Road ES for some recent examples. What exactly is your problem? |
Anonymous
| What is the planned enrollment capacity of a renovated Haycock? |
Anonymous
The original plan was for a renovated Haycock to accommodate 870 students. I do not know if the number has been adjusted, or whether FCPS may also decide to send some Haycock students to Lemon Road (which is currently being expanded) or reduce the AAP placements. Lemon Road has been under-enrolled in recent years. This fall it is getting additional students from Freedom Hill ES, at the same time as the Lemon Road building is being expanded to accommodate @ 550 students. I think the original expectation was that, in a couple of years, additional students from Freedom Hill, Shrevewood and/or Westgate would be sent to Lemon Road, but it's possible FCPS might revisit this decision and decide to send some Haycock kids there instead. Alternatively, FCPS could send out-of-boundary AAP kids to other schools, get rid of some of the AAP centers or, perhaps, add more seats to Haycock than originally planned. |
Anonymous
| 968 > 870 |
Anonymous
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Their best solution would be to adjust some boundaries with Lemon Road. It is completely illogical that Haycock is busting at the seams with hugely under-capacity Lemon Road just down the street.
Only one school that feeds into Haycock AAP has local level IV, and there are no other centers in the area, so there really isn't anywhere else to send the AAP kids. |
Anonymous
You'll need to demonstrate more mastery of mathematical concepts than this if you want to be in Haycock AAP. |
Anonymous
| Timber Lane and Chesterbrook both have Local Level IV I think and are in Haycock's AAP boundaries. Where are all the students coming from anyway? Haycock itself or one of the other 6 schools that feed into it? |
Anonymous
| Do AAP centers get additional money as well to put toward classroom teachers? I don't understand why Haycock has such smaller classes compared to the surrounding schools. I thought that money was for title 1 students only. No wonder everyone wants to go there when there is only one grade with a maximum class size over 26 students and none over 30! It appears there are 135 students in 6th grade this year and six classrooms with a ratio of 22 or 23 students per teacher. For 6th grade! Even with 5 classes it would be 27 students per teacher which is a better ratio than our neighboring school. |
Anonymous
The increase is not only in AAP. Look at the demographics page on the FCPS website. The General Education group at Haycock has increased quite a bit in the past few years as well. The area around Haycock has many more children moving in as the older, smaller houses are torn down (when the old people who live in them sell them) and the giant new houses are being built. AAP is not the only (or even the main) reason for overcrowding, but it is a convenient scapegoat. The AAP centers get extra money and all kinds of extra resources for AAP. If Haycock eliminates the center (as some of the parents favor), they would lose quite a bit of money and most of their socioeconomic diversity. |
Anonymous
| I thought they just got money for specific AAP materials and bus transportation. There should be no reason they get extra funding for teachers. |
Anonymous
| 19:26 here. I doubt that they get extra money for teachers. It's just other resources. I think (although I could be wrong) that the AAP classes at Haycock are larger than Gen Ed. |
Anonymous
| All the more well off local schools surrounding Haycock have larger classes. Haycock even has a 1st grade of 15 children when neighboring schools have combination classes when they can't make a full class work. Not sure why, but they really do have lower class sizes compared to other schools. By at least 2-3 teachers per school it seems. I think it's great. I think all schools should have those size classes. |
Anonymous
This is the problem with judging from the outside. That first grade class is in a classroom that is about half the size of other classrooms. It likely cannot legally accommodate a larger number of students. Last year, Haycock had at least two 5th grade classes that had 32 students...so they are not above experiencing large class sizes. Last year the third grade classes were some of the smallest in the school. This year, they dropped a third grade class and allocated those teachers elsewhere so the third grade has class sizes on the larger end of the spectrum. Haycock class sizes fluctuate each year, just like every other school. |