Paging Governor Christie -- Cain wins in Florida

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This silly point is beneath you, Mr. Steele. Cain was the CEO of a business and was on the board of the Kansas City federal reserve. (At least if Wikipedia is not lying to me.) Obama's experience before being President was nowhere close to as significant. Cain is vastly more prepared than Obama was.

Exactly. He has absolutely no political experience. As much as Republicans gush about running government as a business, it doesn't work like that. CEOs say "jump" and everyone jumps. The President can say "jump", but iCongress may not allocate funds or the Supreme Court may say its unconstitutional. That reality is outside Cain's experience. Let alone the nuts and bolts of politics of which he probably has little to no grasp.

So remind me why Obama was qualified again?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This silly point is beneath you, Mr. Steele. Cain was the CEO of a business and was on the board of the Kansas City federal reserve. (At least if Wikipedia is not lying to me.) Obama's experience before being President was nowhere close to as significant. Cain is vastly more prepared than Obama was.

Exactly. He has absolutely no political experience. As much as Republicans gush about running government as a business, it doesn't work like that. CEOs say "jump" and everyone jumps. The President can say "jump", but iCongress may not allocate funds or the Supreme Court may say its unconstitutional. That reality is outside Cain's experience. Let alone the nuts and bolts of politics of which he probably has little to no grasp.

So remind me why Obama was qualified again?

Experience was always his weakest point, but unlike Cain he had held elected positions at both the state and national level. He at least understood politics. Obama has turned out to be pretty effective at accomplishing his goals. Unfortunately, in my view, his goals have generally been either too modest or misguided.

[Anonymous]

Boy, that last week sury e shut the wingnuts up. After Perry's debate performance and the Florida straw poll, I haven't seen our crazy friends at all.

If this goes on for another day, we're going to have to resort to policy discussions. We could discuss Syria and actually talk about what is going on there, instead of panty sniffer chiming in about how it was all part of Bush's master plan and how Islam is morally bankrupt . We might be able to crunch some numbers on the budget. We could even talk about energy investment without hecklers over Solyndra.

Maybe I'll start one right now and see what happens.

[Anonymous]

ummm, I thought the tea party and the folks who vote in Republican southern primaries were racist?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:ummm, I thought the tea party and the folks who vote in Republican southern primaries were racist?

Obviously not all of them are racists, but there is no denying that there are racists among them. The same is true for religious bigots. Cain himself made a point of saying that many southerners would not vote for a Mormon. As along as Cain is a marginal figure, he can be a useful idiot for racists to prove they aren't racist. But, let's see how they respond if he becomes a legitimate contender. At some point he will have to choose between addressing racial issues honestly -- which will get him in trouble with some Tea Party elements -- or pulling a full Clarence Thomas.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ummm, I thought the tea party and the folks who vote in Republican southern primaries were racist?

Obviously not all of them are racists, but there is no denying that there are racists among them. The same is true for religious bigots. Cain himself made a point of saying that many southerners would not vote for a Mormon. As along as Cain is a marginal figure, he can be a useful idiot for racists to prove they aren't racist. But, let's see how they respond if he becomes a legitimate contender. At some point he will have to choose between addressing racial issues honestly -- which will get him in trouble with some Tea Party elements -- or pulling a full Clarence Thomas.

what does "pulling a full Clarence Thomas" mean? You think his views are not sincere, that a black man cannot honestly disagree with the black consensus on things like affirmative action?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
what does "pulling a full Clarence Thomas" mean? You think his views are not sincere, that a black man cannot honestly disagree with the black consensus on things like affirmative action?

I think Clarence Thomas has gone well beyond having a disagreement with the black consensus. But, I'll leave it to black people to explain Clarence Thomas to you.

[Anonymous]

I think Clarence Thomas has gone well beyond having a disagreement with the black consensus. But, I'll leave it to black people to explain Clarence Thomas to you.

Umm, I think that that is a pretty racist reply. See only, black people are qualified to comment on Clarence Thomas's qualifications as a supreme court judge.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

I think Clarence Thomas has gone well beyond having a disagreement with the black consensus. But, I'll leave it to black people to explain Clarence Thomas to you.

Umm, I think that that is a pretty racist reply. See only, black people are qualified to comment on Clarence Thomas's qualifications as a supreme court judge.

Are you able to hear messages by playing records backwards as well? You are obviously able to read text that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

I think it sad that you expect someone to act a certain way or think certain thoughts, in each instance solely because of the color of his skin. how ridiculous!

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I think it sad that you expect someone to act a certain way or think certain thoughts, in each instance solely because of the color of his skin. how ridiculous!

All of us are affected by our life experiences. For most black people of Thomas' age, skin color was a major influence on their life experiences. People came out of those experiences differently. Thomas was able to go to Yale and become a Supreme Court justice. Not every person in his situation was able to do so. I don't expect him to think and/or act exactly like the others -- nor do I expect all of them to act the same way either. But, I think it is sad that Thomas has chosen to turn his back on those in whose shoes he could so easily be.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it sad that you expect someone to act a certain way or think certain thoughts, in each instance solely because of the color of his skin. how ridiculous!

All of us are affected by our life experiences. For most black people of Thomas' age, skin color was a major influence on their life experiences. People came out of those experiences differently. Thomas was able to go to Yale and become a Supreme Court justice. Not every person in his situation was able to do so. I don't expect him to think and/or act exactly like the others -- nor do I expect all of them to act the same way either. But, I think it is sad that Thomas has chosen to turn his back on those in whose shoes he could so easily be.

so in other words, yes you do think he should hold the same view of others of similar pigmentation, solely because of the skin color .... sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boy, that last week sury e shut the wingnuts up. After Perry's debate performance and the Florida straw poll, I haven't seen our crazy friends at all.

If this goes on for another day, we're going to have to resort to policy discussions. We could discuss Syria and actually talk about what is going on there, instead of panty sniffer chiming in about how it was all part of Bush's master plan and how Islam is morally bankrupt . We might be able to crunch some numbers on the budget. We could even talk about energy investment without hecklers over Solyndra.

Maybe I'll start one right now and see what happens.

Never mind, it seems that they have restored internet service at the mental hospital, the wackos are back.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it sad that you expect someone to act a certain way or think certain thoughts, in each instance solely because of the color of his skin. how ridiculous!

All of us are affected by our life experiences. For most black people of Thomas' age, skin color was a major influence on their life experiences. People came out of those experiences differently. Thomas was able to go to Yale and become a Supreme Court justice. Not every person in his situation was able to do so. I don't expect him to think and/or act exactly like the others -- nor do I expect all of them to act the same way either. But, I think it is sad that Thomas has chosen to turn his back on those in whose shoes he could so easily be.

so in other words, yes you do think he should hold the same view of others of similar pigmentation, solely because of the skin color .... sad.

Is your grasp of English so poor that you failed to understand this: "I don't expect him to think and/or act exactly like the others -- nor do I expect all of them to act the same way either"?

[Anonymous]

but your other words contradict that. your main issue with Thomas is because of his race. he doesn't think the way you feel a black man should. I'm sure you disagree just as strongly on the issues with Scalia (correct?), but for some reason you are not moved to comment on how his judicial views align with his ethnicity.