Krauthammer the socialist

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What they ALL agreed on was that their government was too oppressive and needed to be overthrown. The tyranny, as they called it, of King George the Third was minor compared to what we have today. Giving the East India Tea Company a monopoly over the trade sounds is reminiscent of Obama's many takeovers and favors to his union supporters. The takeover of the auto industry comes to mind. The founding fathers would have been shocked at what we have put up with today and would rebelled against the government long ago.

Jefferson was incredibly liberal for his time. For one thing, he favored universal public education. At the same time, he opposed the government even regulating commerce on interstate canals. So the most liberal people of the day are now untra conservatives. Leftist are often openly hateful of the founding fathers, and certainly they hate their ideas and would vilify them if they were around today.

The bolded sentence above destroys any credibility you may have even had. As far as I remember, you never had any, so it's a wash. But, you really have no clue.

I could provide examples. But really all you have are a bunch of insults without anything to back it up. This doesn't facilitate debate. Then I saw that this was coming from the admin and it's so personal.

Sorry, I was just trying to have a healthy discussion. I'm getting off this board for a while.

I'd still like to know if you looked up my IP address.

An example of one or two things that might be worse now then under the rule of King George is hardly proof that tyranny under the King was minor compared to what we have today. Today, the vast majority of Americans -- minus only the District of Columbia -- has representation in the US Congress. While you may not like today's laws, they are being voted on and passed by elected representatives. That is a fundamental difference that you do not seem to comprehend. To paraphrase Barney Frank, trying to have a discussion with someone who does not understand such a basic fact would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.

As for your IP address, it is on every message you post. I don't have to look it up.

People post very personal things on this site and they have an expectation of privacy. You just violated some of that with me, and then you come across as some hot head with no sense of responsibility or class. I don't really care if you agree with me or not on politics. I'm just concerned that you aren't living up to what people believe they're getting from this message board.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
People post very personal things on this site and they have an expectation of privacy. You just violated some of that with me, and then you come across as some hot head with no sense of responsibility or class. I don't really care if you agree with me or not on politics. I'm just concerned that you aren't living up to what people believe they're getting from this message board.

Are you seriously saying that the fact that you stated an opinion about the regulation of interstate commerce is a "personal thing" that you do not want connected to your opinion about gay marriage? Keeping in mind that I have no idea who you are nor an interest in finding out. How the hell did I violate your privacy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What they ALL agreed on was that their government was too oppressive and needed to be overthrown. The tyranny, as they called it, of King George the Third was minor compared to what we have today. Giving the East India Tea Company a monopoly over the trade sounds is reminiscent of Obama's many takeovers and favors to his union supporters. The takeover of the auto industry comes to mind. The founding fathers would have been shocked at what we have put up with today and would rebelled against the government long ago.

Jefferson was incredibly liberal for his time. For one thing, he favored universal public education. At the same time, he opposed the government even regulating commerce on interstate canals. So the most liberal people of the day are now untra conservatives. Leftist are often openly hateful of the founding fathers, and certainly they hate their ideas and would vilify them if they were around today.

The bolded sentence above destroys any credibility you may have even had. As far as I remember, you never had any, so it's a wash. But, you really have no clue.

I could provide examples. But really all you have are a bunch of insults without anything to back it up. This doesn't facilitate debate. Then I saw that this was coming from the admin and it's so personal.

Sorry, I was just trying to have a healthy discussion. I'm getting off this board for a while.

I'd still like to know if you looked up my IP address.

An example of one or two things that might be worse now then under the rule of King George is hardly proof that tyranny under the King was minor compared to what we have today. Today, the vast majority of Americans -- minus only the District of Columbia -- has representation in the US Congress. While you may not like today's laws, they are being voted on and passed by elected representatives. That is a fundamental difference that you do not seem to comprehend. To paraphrase Barney Frank, trying to have a discussion with someone who does not understand such a basic fact would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.

As for your IP address, it is on every message you post. I don't have to look it up.

People post very personal things on this site and they have an expectation of privacy. You just violated some of that with me, and then you come across as some hot head with no sense of responsibility or class. I don't really care if you agree with me or not on politics. I'm just concerned that you aren't living up to what people believe they're getting from this message board.

A. You have no right to privacy on this forum. Your privacy rights on a web site are defined by a Privacy Policy. In its absence, you have no expectation of privacy.
B. None of your thoughts, no matter how ridiculous, have been connected to any name other than "Anonymous".
C. If you don't like the site, don't participate. You paid Zero dollars to be a part of it. You don't even log in when you post.

[Anonymous]

From the FAQ Page:

I posted a message as "Anonymous". Am I really anonymous or will the Site Administrator be able to identify me?
All connections to DCUM (and probably every Internet site) are logged. Saved information includes your Internet Protocol (IP) address, browser type and version, the date and time of the connection, and the page visited. The IP address may reveal from where you are posting and may help identify other messages you have posted. Only Site Administrators have access to this information.

[takoma]

Hey, Anonymous who is so worried about Jeff knowing who you are: We all know who you are -- you're the crackpot who writes all that nutty stuff. Beyond that, who gives a shit?

[Anonymous]

An example of one or two things that might be worse now then under the rule of King George is hardly proof that tyranny under the King was minor compared to what we have today. Today, the vast majority of Americans -- minus only the District of Columbia -- has representation in the US Congress. While you may not like today's laws, they are being voted on and passed by elected representatives. That is a fundamental difference that you do not seem to comprehend. To paraphrase Barney Frank, trying to have a discussion with someone who does not understand such a basic fact would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that our friend, the defender of liberty, doesn't get very upset about the lack of representation of DC residents. Perhaps because they are mostly liberal, or perhaps because it doesn't effect her. Laws are passed that I don't like? Tyrrany! 500,000 of your fellow citizens are disenfranchised? Meh.