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Anonymous
That's some funny math that you are using. |
Anonymous
The first article said the kids have chosen their hairstyles. I don't think that it is entirely wacko. But it seems that there is a flaw in the plan, as demonstrated by the oldest child. His peers have trouble relating to him. Instead of a neutral gender identity freeing him from bias, it has left him with a missing component of his identity, as the other children see it. Based on his experience, "Neutral" is not an unbiased identity, it is a lack of this aspect of identity. Perhaps it is that little kids are unable to work around the social norms in a way that an adult might. But more likely, gender identity provides important information on how to relate to someone. Without that information, his peers are less able to estimate his needs and interests or interpret his behavior. |
Anonymous
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Publicity stunt for the parents at the expense of the well-being of their children.
Why anyone would think that creating gender confused children is a good thing, I don't know. Kid have a difficult enough time figuring out their identity without parents adding an extra layer of confusion to it. They are really doing exactly what they thought they were setting out not to do. Kind of like teens who think they are super unique and express their individuality by looking exactly like their peer group. To them...gender shouldn't matter so we are going to make it all about gender. |
Anonymous
| Having a gender identity - ANY identity - is important. Raising their children "genderless" as the caption says is taking something away from them, not opening up all kinds of possibilities like they think they are. |
Anonymous
I agree. Isn't it better to emphasize that boys can, for example, play with dolls and wear pink and girls can ride skateboards and wear camo than to try to take away gender altogether? Having a gender (which an infant doesn't really have anyway, but it has a biological sex) is not bad! It is some of the gender-associated constraints that can be bad; why not combat those rather than gender itself? |
Anonymous
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DH's mother was a Kent State, 70s-liberal, feminist.
She had 2 boys. She read all the psych. stuff at the time. She enrolled both boys in ballet and bought them dolls. They got kicked out of ballet for 'tumbling/rough-housing" and she woke up to find the doll's head in the toilet. Experiment was soon over. She can laugh about it today. I haven't had time to read the links or find out who Storm is..but from the postings alone it sounds like the kids are being raised by some freaks. |
Anonymous
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13:30, I bet your MIL knows my mom!!
Poor mom, she tried so hard to get my brother interested in dolls, and to get me to play with trucks. It just didn't work. I still had to wear my brother's hand me downs, though, which I think salved her feelings a little. |
Anonymous
This goes to a point I made on the other thread. The fact that both of their boys are "choosing" to wear pink, braid their long hair and play with dolls leads me to believe that they are being pushed by their parents towards more stereotypically female activities. My sense is that they would consider themselves failures if their boys gravitated towards more "boy-like" behaviors, and therefore they can't allow that to happen. I'm fascinated by the mom's reference to the struggle that one of her kids was having with gender identity while she was pregnant with Storm. I'm curious what was at the basis of that struggle, and whether it's because his parents are urging him not to identify either way. |
Anonymous
Not the PP but a statistician here. It's true - while the theoretical chance of any baby being a boy is 50% (although it's 50% at conception, lower at birth because boy fetuses don't fare as well as girls) regardless of order of birth, there are certain conditions that can mean someone is more likely to have one sex. I wouldn't say "statistically they are going to be the same gender" but I think it's fair to say the odds are slightly (and only very slightly) in favor of the same gender. |
Anonymous
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I think the topic is interesting - but I feel sad for the boy who doesn't want to go to school BECAUSE of the gender nuetral issue. The mom says that she doesn't want to force the choice on the child, but she is making a choice for her child, she's just pretending she's not.
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Anonymous
| I feel so bad for these kids. Their crazy parents are robbing them of a normal childhood. |
Anonymous
Interesting? Think experimenting on your kids and likely screwing them up for years to come kind of interesting? These poor kids if they ever make it to mainstream school will have no friends. I predict years of therapy in their future. |
Anonymous
| go to a pre-school and tell me that there are no gender differences. look at 10,000 years of recorded human history and tell me there are no gender differences. |
Anonymous
Ha!!! MIL sent me pink baby clothes when I was expecting each time. I had two boys. My SIL finally gave her the girl she wanted this spring. I only know boys. I have 2 and SEVEN nephews. The new baby is my first (and I am positive) last neice. I think it's because she had 3 sisters herself. I am one of those woman that wanted all-boys. So---I am good! My own mom is happy with her 6 grandsons. |
Anonymous
| I hope that the child protective services are keeping an eye on them |