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Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


You must be an idiot:

"The state board will decide June 15 whether to waive a penalty of $51 million in state aid because MCPS did not spend at least the same amount on their school systems as they did the previous year. If the $51 million penalty is not waived, MCPS' budget cuts will reach about $212 million this year, when it expects enrollment to increase to 2,800 students system-wide."

http://www.gazette.net/stories/05192010/montnew162657_32572.php


Oooh, is this Angry Teacher who just loves to call people idiots? Check your link. That was last year's news. The ball game has changed this year.


You're the idiot. Although the link may be from 2010, the info reflects budget year 2011. So the info is indeed correct and relevant to REAL TIME.


You know the budget is for FY12, right? Which starts July 1? This year's "REAL TIME" budget, as you call it, was approved last May.


What are your credentials that you know this to be true and why is it okay to cut education money when it's clearly not okay to make the cuts?


Anyone who follows County government understands that the fiscal year starts July 1. Please understand the budget process before you insult people about it.


Yes, I understand the county government, thus the article posted in 2010 is relevant now. Please understand that before you insult supposed "ANGRY TEACHER" about last year's news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


Please send a link or some back up to what you are claiming.

Thanks!



Since you asked nicely:

Here's the committee work packet on the MCPS budget from today:

http://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=6&event_id=9&meta_id=21123

Here is the Council work packet on how the Council is trying to restructure health and retiree benefits County-wide (not just teachers):

http://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=6&event_id=274&meta_id=21375

That meeting is tomorrow. You can watch it live on the Council's website and see for yourself.

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/csltmpl.asp?url=/content/council/ondemand/index.asp
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


You must be an idiot:

"The state board will decide June 15 whether to waive a penalty of $51 million in state aid because MCPS did not spend at least the same amount on their school systems as they did the previous year. If the $51 million penalty is not waived, MCPS' budget cuts will reach about $212 million this year, when it expects enrollment to increase to 2,800 students system-wide."

http://www.gazette.net/stories/05192010/montnew162657_32572.php


Oooh, is this Angry Teacher who just loves to call people idiots? Check your link. That was last year's news. The ball game has changed this year.


You're the idiot. Although the link may be from 2010, the info reflects budget year 2011. So the info is indeed correct and relevant to REAL TIME.


You know the budget is for FY12, right? Which starts July 1? This year's "REAL TIME" budget, as you call it, was approved last May.


What are your credentials that you know this to be true and why is it okay to cut education money when it's clearly not okay to make the cuts?


Anyone who follows County government understands that the fiscal year starts July 1. Please understand the budget process before you insult people about it.


Yes, I understand the county government, thus the article posted in 2010 is relevant now. Please understand that before you insult supposed "ANGRY TEACHER" about last year's news.


I really hope you are not a teacher.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


You must be an idiot:

"The state board will decide June 15 whether to waive a penalty of $51 million in state aid because MCPS did not spend at least the same amount on their school systems as they did the previous year. If the $51 million penalty is not waived, MCPS' budget cuts will reach about $212 million this year, when it expects enrollment to increase to 2,800 students system-wide."

http://www.gazette.net/stories/05192010/montnew162657_32572.php


Oooh, is this Angry Teacher who just loves to call people idiots? Check your link. That was last year's news. The ball game has changed this year.


You're the idiot. Although the link may be from 2010, the info reflects budget year 2011. So the info is indeed correct and relevant to REAL TIME.


You know the budget is for FY12, right? Which starts July 1? This year's "REAL TIME" budget, as you call it, was approved last May.


What are your credentials that you know this to be true and why is it okay to cut education money when it's clearly not okay to make the cuts?


Anyone who follows County government understands that the fiscal year starts July 1. Please understand the budget process before you insult people about it.


Yes, I understand the county government, thus the article posted in 2010 is relevant now. Please understand that before you insult supposed "ANGRY TEACHER" about last year's news.


I really hope you are not a teacher.


English Teacher. 20 years.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


You must be an idiot:

"The state board will decide June 15 whether to waive a penalty of $51 million in state aid because MCPS did not spend at least the same amount on their school systems as they did the previous year. If the $51 million penalty is not waived, MCPS' budget cuts will reach about $212 million this year, when it expects enrollment to increase to 2,800 students system-wide."

http://www.gazette.net/stories/05192010/montnew162657_32572.php


Oooh, is this Angry Teacher who just loves to call people idiots? Check your link. That was last year's news. The ball game has changed this year.


You're the idiot. Although the link may be from 2010, the info reflects budget year 2011. So the info is indeed correct and relevant to REAL TIME.


You know the budget is for FY12, right? Which starts July 1? This year's "REAL TIME" budget, as you call it, was approved last May.


What are your credentials that you know this to be true and why is it okay to cut education money when it's clearly not okay to make the cuts?


Anyone who follows County government understands that the fiscal year starts July 1. Please understand the budget process before you insult people about it.


Yes, I understand the county government, thus the article posted in 2010 is relevant now. Please understand that before you insult supposed "ANGRY TEACHER" about last year's news.


I really hope you are not a teacher.


English Teacher. 20 years.


Do you call your students idiots too?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


This is a ludicrous statement. The cut has an impact on teachers, who run the classrooms. How on earth can it not impact the kids?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


You must be an idiot:

"The state board will decide June 15 whether to waive a penalty of $51 million in state aid because MCPS did not spend at least the same amount on their school systems as they did the previous year. If the $51 million penalty is not waived, MCPS' budget cuts will reach about $212 million this year, when it expects enrollment to increase to 2,800 students system-wide."

http://www.gazette.net/stories/05192010/montnew162657_32572.php


Oooh, is this Angry Teacher who just loves to call people idiots? Check your link. That was last year's news. The ball game has changed this year.


You're the idiot. Although the link may be from 2010, the info reflects budget year 2011. So the info is indeed correct and relevant to REAL TIME.


You know the budget is for FY12, right? Which starts July 1? This year's "REAL TIME" budget, as you call it, was approved last May.


What are your credentials that you know this to be true and why is it okay to cut education money when it's clearly not okay to make the cuts?


Anyone who follows County government understands that the fiscal year starts July 1. Please understand the budget process before you insult people about it.


Yes, I understand the county government, thus the article posted in 2010 is relevant now. Please understand that before you insult supposed "ANGRY TEACHER" about last year's news.


I really hope you are not a teacher.


English Teacher. 20 years.



AHH so it is your retirment and healthcar eyou are worried about do us all a favor and retire. you know you are thinking of it because the new retriement program is going to suck compared to what you have now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


This is a ludicrous statement. The cut has an impact on teachers, who run the classrooms. How on earth can it not impact the kids?


A true impact to kids is firing teachers and increasing class size. Or eliminating busing for magnet schools. Or not buying new books and other materials. Changing a teacher's health insurance premium share from 10% to 15% is not going to impact little Johnny. My premium share is getting a bigger hit than that, and it's not going to impact my work product. At all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


This is a ludicrous statement. The cut has an impact on teachers, who run the classrooms. How on earth can it not impact the kids?


A true impact to kids is firing teachers and increasing class size. Or eliminating busing for magnet schools. Or not buying new books and other materials. Changing a teacher's health insurance premium share from 10% to 15% is not going to impact little Johnny. My premium share is getting a bigger hit than that, and it's not going to impact my work product. At all.


I couldn't disagree more. We are already seeing resignations of experienced teachers.

This is the beginning of the end for MCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


This is a ludicrous statement. The cut has an impact on teachers, who run the classrooms. How on earth can it not impact the kids?


A true impact to kids is firing teachers and increasing class size. Or eliminating busing for magnet schools. Or not buying new books and other materials. Changing a teacher's health insurance premium share from 10% to 15% is not going to impact little Johnny. My premium share is getting a bigger hit than that, and it's not going to impact my work product. At all.


I couldn't disagree more. We are already seeing resignations of experienced teachers.

This is the beginning of the end for MCPS.


Oh, really? I hear the attrition rate is much lower than it has been in years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


This is a ludicrous statement. The cut has an impact on teachers, who run the classrooms. How on earth can it not impact the kids?


A true impact to kids is firing teachers and increasing class size. Or eliminating busing for magnet schools. Or not buying new books and other materials. Changing a teacher's health insurance premium share from 10% to 15% is not going to impact little Johnny. My premium share is getting a bigger hit than that, and it's not going to impact my work product. At all.


I couldn't disagree more. We are already seeing resignations of experienced teachers.

This is the beginning of the end for MCPS.


It is because the new retirement is going to suck, it is nto jsut the schools a mass retirement is happening across the county. Thin the hurd....
Anonymous
Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Neither do I.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Neither do I.


Bravo.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


You must be an idiot:

"The state board will decide June 15 whether to waive a penalty of $51 million in state aid because MCPS did not spend at least the same amount on their school systems as they did the previous year. If the $51 million penalty is not waived, MCPS' budget cuts will reach about $212 million this year, when it expects enrollment to increase to 2,800 students system-wide."

http://www.gazette.net/stories/05192010/montnew162657_32572.php


Oooh, is this Angry Teacher who just loves to call people idiots? Check your link. That was last year's news. The ball game has changed this year.


You're the idiot. Although the link may be from 2010, the info reflects budget year 2011. So the info is indeed correct and relevant to REAL TIME.


You know the budget is for FY12, right? Which starts July 1? This year's "REAL TIME" budget, as you call it, was approved last May.


What are your credentials that you know this to be true and why is it okay to cut education money when it's clearly not okay to make the cuts?


Anyone who follows County government understands that the fiscal year starts July 1. Please understand the budget process before you insult people about it.


Yes, I understand the county government, thus the article posted in 2010 is relevant now. Please understand that before you insult supposed "ANGRY TEACHER" about last year's news.


I really hope you are not a teacher.


English Teacher. 20 years.


Do you call your students idiots too?



So, by your logic, because someone is a teacher they are not allowed to call another person on an anonymous message board an "idiot"? You are saying that teachers are not people and outside of the classroom they cannot do or say as they please within reasonable limits, which to me would not restrict them to refraining from use of the word "idiot."

This is what you are saying?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's a $25 million cut -- not $107 million.

The cut is targeted at employee health benefit premiums and retirement benefits. The cuts won't impact kids at all.


There seems to be some confusion over where they got this $107 million number. My understanding of how they arrive at this number is the following: The BOE budget request was $82 million over last year because of projections of increased enrollment and in keeping with the maintenence of effort law. Ike Leggett, the county executive, took the BOE request and reduced it by the 82 million keeping it level with last year, when he made his budget recommendation to the County Council. The County Council is now considering cutting it an additional $25 million beyond the $82 million that Leggett cut. Hence $82M + $25M = $107M.

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