When Did MoCo Fall Off the Map

[Anonymous]

I don't see Fairfiax as that different than Montgomery..pockets of poverty and pockets of prosperity in both. Depends on where you live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MoCo makes all the lists that rank the richest zip codes. I have never seen it make a list ranked by county. Potomac and Bethesda easily beat out Loudin and Falls Church on zip. MoC'so overall income/net worth would be significantly lowered because of the size of the county and availability of low income housing as well as rural areas.

This was a ranking of counties not individual zip codes. Maybe you are suggesting Potomac and Bethesda should break off from the parts of MoCo that drag it down like Wheaton and Silver Springs. I guess the schools there are very different from the ones in most of the county now?

LMAO, it is Silver Spring, not Silver Springs.

The fact that you live in this area and don't even know that says it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

I think the bag tax is a fabulous idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

Elitist. Say that to the struggling families where every penny counts. And it's not just bags for food. It's bags for everything. Nanny Montgomery strikes again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is conspicuously missing in action:

http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/11/americas-richest-counties-business-washington.html

Is this a consequence of policies that discouraged growth and encouraged the poor to move to Montgomery? What does this portend for the county schools?

What are you talking about, discouraged growth? When has MoCo ever discouraged growth, other than in the Ag Reserve?

Um, yes. Try getting anything past the zoning board - it will take so long, you will have used up all of the money that you could have invested in the business. Or serving a different wine in a restaurant - MC is the only county in the country that requires every drop of alcohol served to go through the county's hand, thus adding cost and precluding anything interesting from being served. Montgomery County is killing itself.

[Anonymous]

Hmmmm....

I live in Chevy Chase Md and all I see are excellent schools, a thriving downtown in Bethesda with excellent shops and restaurants, great cheap ethnic food and shopping up in Rockville, zero crime, easy commute into DC. Far more pleasant than the reactionary hell-hole of Virginia, no sign of a "demise" here!

Hmmmm. I live in pocket in DC about as wealthy as yours, according to census figures. Nevertheless because I actually leave this little area and occasionally go to places like Montgomery Village (costco), Germantown (friends, vet specialist), Wheaton (parsk, cake store, etc) and Langley Park (chicken) ... oh! and Kensington-by-the-tracks (auto mechanic) .... I can see that all of Montgomery County isn't sipping mimosas and shopping at Lululemon for $150 running pants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

I think the bag tax is a fabulous idea.

It is the slow creep of government in to every aspect of ones life. It starts with a 5 cent tax that seems harmless enough. Soon the government will tax or limit any action it wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

I think the bag tax is a fabulous idea.

It is the slow creep of government in to every aspect of ones life. It starts with a 5 cent tax that seems harmless enough. Soon the government will tax or limit any action it wants.

1. "the government" isn't some independent creature - it is elected by the voters. So the idea of "the government" taxes or limiting any action it wants is ridiculous.
2. The proper role of the government is to supply public goods and, where necessary, correct market failures. In the case of plastic bags there is a huge negative externality - the resulting littering problem - which is not included in the price the supermarket pays for the bag. Bags therefore should be taxed.

As for the idea that taxes them is elitist and people can't afford it - well guess what? No one has to pay the tax. Simply reuse a durable bag.

I think all you free-market nutcases belong in Virginia, with its endless ugly sprawl.

[Anonymous]

Why not just forbid plastic bags? Why tax it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is conspicuously missing in action:

http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/11/americas-richest-counties-business-washington.html

Is this a consequence of policies that discouraged growth and encouraged the poor to move to Montgomery? What does this portend for the county schools?

No matter how you slice this, it doesn't look good. Forbes had MoCo @ #10 last year (http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/04/america-richest-counties-lifestyle-real-estate-wealthy-suburbs.html). The list I'm seeing only mentions the top 5 -- Does anyone have the complete 2011 list? That list could show if MoCo has lost, or gained, ground based on wealth indicies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

I think the bag tax is a fabulous idea.

It is the slow creep of government in to every aspect of ones life. It starts with a 5 cent tax that seems harmless enough. Soon the government will tax or limit any action it wants.

1. "the government" isn't some independent creature - it is elected by the voters. So the idea of "the government" taxes or limiting any action it wants is ridiculous.
2. The proper role of the government is to supply public goods and, where necessary, correct market failures. In the case of plastic bags there is a huge negative externality - the resulting littering problem - which is not included in the price the supermarket pays for the bag. Bags therefore should be taxed.

As for the idea that taxes them is elitist and people can't afford it - well guess what? No one has to pay the tax. Simply reuse a durable bag.

I think all you free-market nutcases belong in Virginia, with its endless ugly sprawl.

Wait so Rockville Pike isn't the definition of sprawl?

What happens is that the government is an inefficient slow moving organization that doesn't solve any "problem". This bag tax will go into a giant vat and problem less than 1 cent will be used to pay for litter pickup etc. The rest will go to administrative costs, higher govt workers to police the taxation etc. Check out DC. The Anacostia is still polluted. The tax didn't clean up the river. I know you want to FORCE people to live like you and use reusable bags (the ones that harbor tons of bacteria and are harmful for humans) because it makes you feel better than us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

I think the bag tax is a fabulous idea.

It is the slow creep of government in to every aspect of ones life. It starts with a 5 cent tax that seems harmless enough. Soon the government will tax or limit any action it wants.

1. "the government" isn't some independent creature - it is elected by the voters. So the idea of "the government" taxes or limiting any action it wants is ridiculous.
2. The proper role of the government is to supply public goods and, where necessary, correct market failures. In the case of plastic bags there is a huge negative externality - the resulting littering problem - which is not included in the price the supermarket pays for the bag. Bags therefore should be taxed.

As for the idea that taxes them is elitist and people can't afford it - well guess what? No one has to pay the tax. Simply reuse a durable bag.

I think all you free-market nutcases belong in Virginia, with its endless ugly sprawl.

No offense intended, but can we please get off the "bag" tip and address this thread's issue? Too, there's always room to start a bag thread, if so inclined. TIA!

Wait so Rockville Pike isn't the definition of sprawl?

What happens is that the government is an inefficient slow moving organization that doesn't solve any "problem". This bag tax will go into a giant vat and problem less than 1 cent will be used to pay for litter pickup etc. The rest will go to administrative costs, higher govt workers to police the taxation etc. Check out DC. The Anacostia is still polluted. The tax didn't clean up the river. I know you want to FORCE people to live like you and use reusable bags (the ones that harbor tons of bacteria and are harmful for humans) because it makes you feel better than us.

[Anonymous]

No offense intended, but can we please get off the "bag" tip and address this thread's issue? Too, there's always room to start a bag thread, if so inclined. TIA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we'll have to pay the freakin' bag tax. Grrr.

Oh yeah, 5 cents a bag. I am sure that will be a real imposition on you.
Loser.

I think the bag tax is a fabulous idea.

It is the slow creep of government in to every aspect of ones life. It starts with a 5 cent tax that seems harmless enough. Soon the government will tax or limit any action it wants.

Plastic bags have been illegal in Ireland for years, and elsewhere they are illegal or taxed, or the shop charges for them (IKEA does this).

They are a scourge on the environment and the government has a legitimate interest in discouraging their use.