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Anonymous
Yes, but is it normal business banker hours or is it normal real estate business hours? I think everyone knows the majority of real estate viewings are after 5pm and on the weekends. |
Anonymous
| I went through this once. It is very disruptive. I cannot imagine going through it with a newborn. I would be pissed. It is well within the landlord's right but what a $hitty thing to do to your tenants. I wouldn't bother to clean and would be as rude as possible to them. Your landlord is an a$$ not to wait for you to move. |
Anonymous
| "Normal business hours" means 9-5 weekdays. The legal review standard if you went to court would be along the lines of what that phrase means to a proverbial "reasonable person". Not what it means to someone "involved in the real estate business." Especially if it's a lease term provided by the owner of the property. That said, in the real world everyone needs to get along as well as possible - but asking them to stay in the 9-5 period can't hurt. |
Anonymous
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we rented in DC and had the house put up on the market when DS was 3.5 months old (with two months left on the lease). We decided after one month that we were not willing to put up with showing the house.
Landlord gave us 24 hours notice and yes, our number was given to the realtors so they could contact us directly -- I did decline on a few occasions (during dinner and bath), but still, there were evenings when I ended up sitting across the street with baby in a stroller and I got sick of it. Luckily, we quickly found a place we liked and moved at the end of our lease. FWIW, OP, I would request a rent reduction or start limiting showings to "normal business hours." Ask for a rent reduction or set a limit like, you'll agree to show only two evenings a week -- and that's it. |
Anonymous
And don't forget to be passive-aggressive - leave your underwear in the middle of the kitchen floor. |
Anonymous
This might come back to bite you as you can get charged for cleaning/damage to carpet/hardwood/walls etc. Does your security deposit go towards move-out cleaning? As for underwear on the kitchen floor and other passive aggressive moves...most buyers look past that stuff. Room size, floor layout, foundation/water damage, yard, etc. are the key things to look at. Everything else is cosmetic and personal to the resident. OP - it does suck to be juggling a newborn and toddler and have your rental on the market, but since you agreed to it in your contract you're stuck with the situation. Can you ask your landlord to give you an update on the house - like when he/she will accept contracts (and therefore the house will be "off" the market to all the walk-throughs)? Your landlord sounds eager to sell just as you're eager to get rid of the strangers from walking through your personal space. Just keep that in mind. |
Anonymous
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OP, I don't know where you are located, but if you are in DC, the landlord is suppose to give you the first right of refusal for purchase.
As a landlord myself, I think your landlord could have just given you notice that you need to move out at lease's end, May 1, and kept showings to begin June 1, with an option for you to vacate early after 30 days. I say that in the event you have been good tenants for a few years. That would have been a nice way to thank you. Rather than give you short notice, only 24 hours?, that they were going to sell. You've given them a lot of money over the years. It may be within their right do this, but I think most renters would appreciate this over a bottle of liquor. Geez. Absolutely, call your ll to discuss. Say that you do not have to do evenings per your lease, but will if you can negotiate the rent. It is to their benefit--financially--for you to be happy. I would NEVER show a house with tenants who were unhappy; they would point out all of the houses defects. If you are there during the showing, it is not to their benefit. I say this as person who once purchased a tenanted house! They had scared off tons of prospective purchasers, but their ll wasn't very good, so no surprise. |
Anonymous
This is a great landlord. You should print this out and show your landlord, OP. |
Anonymous
While this is great advice I think this is written from the standpoint of a landlord who is financially stable. The OP said the owner listed the property due to financial reasons. Most owners don't want to show a house with tenants as everyone knows this is a bad situation and there's zero incentive for tenants to have a house in great shape for showings. It sounds like they need the rent to cover the mortgage and there's nothing leftover for extras. The OP can ask for a reduction, but they did agree to the terms of the contract. |
Anonymous
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OP: Do unto others.
That's all I can say. |
Anonymous
I'm wondering if she can say 9-5 and then give some exceptions (2-3 evenings a week, some times on the weekend etc.). Honestly, she wants the house to sell and most people go househunting at least some on the weekends and evenings. I understand not wanting to give full access but some flexibility might be warranted. |
Anonymous
Maybe the landlord needs to hear that more than the OP. |
Anonymous
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PPs do not know what they are talking about OP.
In DC, new buyer MUST honor existing lease. Also, you automatically convert to month-to-month in June. New buyer (or current owner) MUST give you 90 days notice to vacate in writing (this is under the guidelines of vacate for owner possession--there may actually be a different time frame for substantial repairs). You can not be forced to leave bc your lease expires. Please read the tenant guide below. I purchased a house under lease in DC 2 yrs ago and am very familiar with these laws. http://och.georgetown.edu/uploadedfiles/Tenant_Survival_Guide.pdf Unfortunately, you do have to agree for realtor to show your unit--they aren't supposed to show it w/o your approval (although it does sound like you have to be cooperative based on your lease). But you can certainly restrict the available times and inform the realtor as such. But if the home is priced well, it will probably be under contract by next week anyway. With any luck, you won't have much more showings to deal with. |
Anonymous
| I do disagree with the pp who said that landlords generally don't want to show a house that is rented. This happened to me (as a renter) twice in a row. I have really nice furniture, rugs, etc and I think I served as a "staging" service for them (quite unwittingly). They saw how nice the house looked with my stuff in it, and decided that the house would sell better than it would empty. I'm also a real neatnik, so it just wasn't in me to retaliate by leaving the house a mess. In both cases, it was kind of a pain, but the houses sold quickly, so it really wasn't horrible. It was what made me realize that it was time to stop renting and buy. |