Segregation in Charter Schools

[Anonymous]

I have to agree the charter mix does reflect the racial disparities in the public schools, but frankly that was one of the things I was hoping would change with charters.

I don't know if they would be considered well off but 19% are not FARM in 2009/2010.

http://www.kipp.org/00/docs/KIPP_ReportCard_2009/2009ReportCard_KIPPDCWILLAcademy.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After reading the article, it seems to me that a way to integrate charter schools is to actively recruit/cater to the curricular needs and desires of white families to get more of them to apply to these all black charters. However, that tactic is political suicide in DC.

Witness Rhee and Fenty. Many other reasons that folks had issues, but this was one of the bigger ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't half the issue behind why parents won't consider KIPP that they are not comfortable with the racial mix. I am white and that is my issue. I agree with the poster above, I need to be at least 20/25% white for it to work for me or at least not all one race. I just think a white kid would have it really hard. Also frankly the schools that are failing and therefore tend to have parents seeking charter schools are not in the whiter parts of DC. The big test will be Cap City's move.

Funny how there are no complaints when the roles are reversed. For years blacks kids were bussed into all white districts in the name of "integration".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't half the issue behind why parents won't consider KIPP that they are not comfortable with the racial mix. I am white and that is my issue. I agree with the poster above, I need to be at least 20/25% white for it to work for me or at least not all one race. I just think a white kid would have it really hard. Also frankly the schools that are failing and therefore tend to have parents seeking charter schools are not in the whiter parts of DC. The big test will be Cap City's move.

Funny how there are no complaints when the roles are reversed. For years blacks kids were bussed into all white districts in the name of "integration".

Bussing was a failure for a lot of reasons. White racism, destruction of neighborhood feel to schools just too far. I had siblings bussed 20 miles across town and we were white. My mother could not get to parent teacher conferences because she did not have a car. I am guessing that was a problem for other kids also in the upper grades that were sent to my neighborhood.

But the reality is that mixed schools would be better for all groups involved, white, black, Asian, Hispanic etc. We need kids working together in their youth, not when they hit college or a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friendship Collegiate High School is not mediocre by no means. Plus, their access by metro is almost like door to door but the school population is 95% AA. One of their primary draws in the early years was when they hired the former principal of Banneker High School at the helm.

I have to disagree with the fact that advertisements are saying that white children are not welcome to these charter schools. Again, anything beyond middle-school would be hard pressed to have a racial mix of double digit numbers. Plainly put there is not enough white children above pre-k 3rd grade to make a charter school population substantial.

An all AA Friendship Middle School population are going to an AA Friendship High School population. Is it wrong?

This post cannot be real. This has to be an insulting, terrible parody of ebonics. Please say this is not a real post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After reading the article, it seems to me that a way to integrate charter schools is to actively recruit/cater to the curricular needs and desires of white families to get more of them to apply to these all black charters. However, that tactic is political suicide in DC.

Witness Rhee and Fenty. Many other reasons that folks had issues, but this was one of the bigger ones.

Really? Exactly which all-black schools did Rhee and Fenty attempt to recruit white families into??

Or, is this just your selective and imaginary memory?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship Collegiate High School is not mediocre by no means. Plus, their access by metro is almost like door to door but the school population is 95% AA. One of their primary draws in the early years was when they hired the former principal of Banneker High School at the helm.

I have to disagree with the fact that advertisements are saying that white children are not welcome to these charter schools. Again, anything beyond middle-school would be hard pressed to have a racial mix of double digit numbers. Plainly put there is not enough white children above pre-k 3rd grade to make a charter school population substantial.

An all AA Friendship Middle School population are going to an AA Friendship High School population. Is it wrong?

This post cannot be real. This has to be an insulting, terrible parody of ebonics. Please say this is not a real post.

How could other posters respond and you criticize. A real post, probably. To use your words, get real!

[Anonymous]

PP, that is so true when blacks were being bussed all over PG County it was called integration. I do believe the advertisement is curtailed to the demographics of the city and by no means a subliminal message of "stay out."

What I might find more insulting that the actual children being photographed and displayed in the advertisement are paid models. Which conjers up a whole another bowl of worms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship Collegiate High School is not mediocre by no means. Plus, their access by metro is almost like door to door but the school population is 95% AA. One of their primary draws in the early years was when they hired the former principal of Banneker High School at the helm.

I have to disagree with the fact that advertisements are saying that white children are not welcome to these charter schools. Again, anything beyond middle-school would be hard pressed to have a racial mix of double digit numbers. Plainly put there is not enough white children above pre-k 3rd grade to make a charter school population substantial.

An all AA Friendship Middle School population are going to an AA Friendship High School population. Is it wrong?

This post cannot be real. This has to be an insulting, terrible parody of ebonics. Please say this is not a real post.

Whooptie doo (sp), s/he used a double negative "not mediocre by no means", what about the rest of the post cries a fake post? Come on now, stop correcting the grammar and try to pay attention to the content. I'm afraid if you're a grammar queen, you may miss out on a lot.

[Anonymous]

"Really? Exactly which all-black schools did Rhee and Fenty attempt to recruit white families into??"

Francis Stevens

[Anonymous]

"Really? Exactly which all-black schools did Rhee and Fenty attempt to recruit white families into??"

Garrison.

Evidence here:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/39647/michelle-rhees-campaign-to-diversify-dc-public-schools-means-wooing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After reading the article, it seems to me that a way to integrate charter schools is to actively recruit/cater to the curricular needs and desires of white families to get more of them to apply to these all black charters. However, that tactic is political suicide in DC.

Witness Rhee and Fenty. Many other reasons that folks had issues, but this was one of the bigger ones.

Really? Exactly which all-black schools did Rhee and Fenty attempt to recruit white families into??

Or, is this just your selective and imaginary memory?

Ummm, Hardy. There was a huge, city council protests and everything, uproar based on the idea that Rhee was trying to recruit the children from the feeder schools (majority white and affluent) to a school which had been succesful as an OOB middle school option for AA children throughout the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship Collegiate High School is not mediocre by no means. Plus, their access by metro is almost like door to door but the school population is 95% AA. One of their primary draws in the early years was when they hired the former principal of Banneker High School at the helm.

I have to disagree with the fact that advertisements are saying that white children are not welcome to these charter schools. Again, anything beyond middle-school would be hard pressed to have a racial mix of double digit numbers. Plainly put there is not enough white children above pre-k 3rd grade to make a charter school population substantial.

An all AA Friendship Middle School population are going to an AA Friendship High School population. Is it wrong?

This post cannot be real. This has to be an insulting, terrible parody of ebonics. Please say this is not a real post.

Whooptie doo (sp), s/he used a double negative "not mediocre by no means", what about the rest of the post cries a fake post? Come on now, stop correcting the grammar and try to pay attention to the content. I'm afraid if you're a grammar queen, you may miss out on a lot.

These are not minor grammatical errors. Not PP but that post is appalling because it is attempting to vouch for the quality of a particular school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen several large advertisements for DC charter schools on the sides and backs of DC buses in the last few months. Many of these ads include photographs of happy students. I have yet to see a white face in any of these ads. I have to assume that the schools approve their own ads, so what message are they trying to send? To me it is a message of "white kids not wanted here."

Honestly, what are the schools supposed to do if there are no white kids?? I think most schools which have diversity try to tout it.

Zero white kids is not "diversity", yet that buzz word seems to be used by some to suggest that white parents have a moral imperative to send their kids to a school that is 80% black... or else they must be racist! This politically correct BS just drives me nuts!! These things break down by race/class for real reasons -- complicated and varied, but for real reasons that minorities need to take at least SOME responsibility for in this country. Doesn't seem like that's going to happen, and the problem can't be fixed unless it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't half the issue behind why parents won't consider KIPP that they are not comfortable with the racial mix. I am white and that is my issue. I agree with the poster above, I need to be at least 20/25% white for it to work for me or at least not all one race. I just think a white kid would have it really hard. Also frankly the schools that are failing and therefore tend to have parents seeking charter schools are not in the whiter parts of DC. The big test will be Cap City's move.

Funny how there are no complaints when the roles are reversed. For years blacks kids were bussed into all white districts in the name of "integration".

What would you have people do?!?!!?!? Blacks are what - 17% of the population?!?!? What would you have us do as a society?!?!?!?! It's not mathematically possible for ratios to be equal at all schools!!! Really!!