Spring Valley & Mann

[Anonymous]

the issue is that the Census datat block doesn't overlap perfectly with the Mann attendance boundary.

also, there's the Hardy piece, ie, 6th grade.

"elementary school" by the Census definition likely includes 6th grade. But Mann doesn't have 6th grade anymore, right? 6th grade is at Hardy. And we've already confirmed that almost 100% of Spring Valley 6th graders go private.

[Anonymous]

We moved to the Palisades so the kids could attend Key. We adore it and feel very much part of a strong neighborhood community. We walk to school and see plenty of friends/neighbors walking their kids as well. And then we see dozens of them at the Sunday Farmer's Market. Key creates a close-knit and welcoming community - and people look out for each other here. There is no question that the public middle school option (Hardy) is not ideal right now, and we will likely have to consider private middle school (or move to MD) but for the moment we couldn't be more thrilled with our warm and friendly community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of 4 houses on Windom / Warren are coming on the market this spring.

White flight?

ha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The Census tool says there are an estimated 625 elementary-aged children living in the general Spring Valley neighborhood and 85% of them go to private. "

This doesn't seem correct. There are more than 200 kids at Mann, maybe 250, so it would appear it is more like 60% that go private, and probably for the lower grades a much lower percentage.

The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The Census tool says there are an estimated 625 elementary-aged children living in the general Spring Valley neighborhood and 85% of them go to private. "

This doesn't seem correct. There are more than 200 kids at Mann, maybe 250, so it would appear it is more like 60% that go private, and probably for the lower grades a much lower percentage.

The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.

I think that's exactly right. The 625 tot & 85% are for Spring Valley, but the Mann boundary includes areas south of Spring Valley as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The Census tool says there are an estimated 625 elementary-aged children living in the general Spring Valley neighborhood and 85% of them go to private. "

This doesn't seem correct. There are more than 200 kids at Mann, maybe 250, so it would appear it is more like 60% that go private, and probably for the lower grades a much lower percentage.

The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.

DCUM lie of the year.

[Anonymous]

What does the tool say about Wesley Heights?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The Census tool says there are an estimated 625 elementary-aged children living in the general Spring Valley neighborhood and 85% of them go to private. "

This doesn't seem correct. There are more than 200 kids at Mann, maybe 250, so it would appear it is more like 60% that go private, and probably for the lower grades a much lower percentage.

The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.

DCUM lie of the year.

What do you mean, PP. Do you have evidence that there are no OOB kids at Mann?

I know a few kids enrolled at Mann who are almost certainly OOB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The Census tool says there are an estimated 625 elementary-aged children living in the general Spring Valley neighborhood and 85% of them go to private. "

This doesn't seem correct. There are more than 200 kids at Mann, maybe 250, so it would appear it is more like 60% that go private, and probably for the lower grades a much lower percentage.

The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.

I think that's exactly right. The 625 tot & 85% are for Spring Valley, but the Mann boundary includes areas south of Spring Valley as well.

There are nowhere near 625 elementary-aged children in Spring Valley! Unless, of course, a few families are running massive sweat shops in their basements nobody but the NYT knows about. We know a lot of people in the neighborhood. I'd be surprised if there are even 625 homes. I'd say there are maybe 50 to 100 elementary aged kids in SV at best. Most go to private school. On the other hand, AU Park across Mass Ave. is teeming with young families -- I think the NYT data is pulling a bit from there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The Census tool says there are an estimated 625 elementary-aged children living in the general Spring Valley neighborhood and 85% of them go to private. "

This doesn't seem correct. There are more than 200 kids at Mann, maybe 250, so it would appear it is more like 60% that go private, and probably for the lower grades a much lower percentage.

The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.

I think that's exactly right. The 625 tot & 85% are for Spring Valley, but the Mann boundary includes areas south of Spring Valley as well.

There are nowhere near 625 elementary-aged children in Spring Valley! Unless, of course, a few families are running massive sweat shops in their basements nobody but the NYT knows about. We know a lot of people in the neighborhood. I'd be surprised if there are even 625 homes. I'd say there are maybe 50 to 100 elementary aged kids in SV at best. Most go to private school. On the other hand, AU Park across Mass Ave. is teeming with young families -- I think the NYT data is pulling a bit from there.

Just looked a little closer. The 625 includes all the kids in Spring Valley and Kent and some parts of the Palisades -- basically everything between loughboro, mcarthur, and arizona ave PLUS Spring Valley. I'd buy that there are 625 kids in that cluster. But young kids in Spring Valley and the larger homes in Kent are uncommon.

[Anonymous]

There are nowhere near 625 elementary-aged children in Spring Valley! Unless, of course, a few families are running massive sweat shops in their basements nobody but the NYT knows about. We know a lot of people in the neighborhood. I'd be surprised if there are even 625 homes. I'd say there are maybe 50 to 100 elementary aged kids in SV at best. Most go to private school. On the other hand, AU Park across Mass Ave. is teeming with young families -- I think the NYT data is pulling a bit from the

1. We're all talking about data taken from the U.S. Census here, that happens to be available on the Census Bureau site as well as the NYT.

2. The Census tract under discussion is bigger than Spring Valley. It also includes part of Palisades and Kent. So that's why there are an estimated 625 children.

3. 85% of those 625 kids in Spring Valley, Kent, and Palisades go to private. That includes 6th graders (!) before anyone points out that all kids in Palisades attend Key, not private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Census tool may not exactly match the bounds of Mann, so I would trust the figures as they apply to the census area. There are also some OOB kids at Mann.
DCUM lie of the year.

According to Mann's numbers they are 14% OOB.
http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Mann+Elementary+School

[Anonymous]

There is no &$% way that 39 of the 269 kids at Mann are OOB. That is utter bullshit.

I really wish Bill Turque or someone else at the Post would expose this farce @ Mann and give it some daylight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no &$% way that 39 of the 269 kids at Mann are OOB. That is utter bullshit.

I really wish Bill Turque or someone else at the Post would expose this farce @ Mann and give it some daylight.

I knew a handful of kids from DC's preschool who went to Mann OOB a few years ago. Why are you so adamant that there are no OOB kids PP? Families that live in bounds have the resources to go private. No school has a duty to serve OOB kids, and they don't control who in bounds registers. They just fill empty spaces with bodies before the head count day in October.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no &$% way that 39 of the 269 kids at Mann are OOB. That is utter bullshit.

I really wish Bill Turque or someone else at the Post would expose this farce @ Mann and give it some daylight.

Mann has 274 kids enrolled and is 30% over-capacity according to this week's NW Current