Playing Down

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In my experience, players tend to improve fastest when they’re challenged by the speed, physicality, and decision-making of older grade-level peers. Being one of the stronger players on a younger team can feel good, but it doesn’t always accelerate development the way competing against bigger, faster, more mature players does.

I’d also consider what practices look like. I’d rather have my daughter training in a higher-paced environment with grade-level players than being one of the stars on a younger team. The competition she sees in practice often matters more than the tournament results.

Of course, team quality matters too, and there are certainly cases where a younger top team is stronger than an older second team. But all else being equal, I’d lean toward the tougher pace of play and higher ceiling that comes with staying at grade level.


Completely agree that players being challenged with the level of competition generally helps players advance the fastest. If you are relying on your club team practices for most of your players development then you don't want to be too far off from the average ability level of the team. In other words you don't want to be the clear top player or a clear bottom player.

However, grade level does not automatically equate to a higher quality of play/pace. Level of competition dictates pace and quality much more than age group, as long as the ages are within a year of each other. At virtually all clubs that compete at the upper levels of CHRVA, their top 14s team will beat their 2nd or 3rd 15s team. And the competition level between regional open-level 14U and 15U is a lot closer than the competition levels of open 15s vs club 15s.

We've seen players try both ways. Generally if you are able to make a team at the top level of an age group and see significant playing time, then that's your best bet. Coaching is generally better, competition is better and the team's overall skill level generally progresses much quicker.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In my experience, players tend to improve fastest when they’re challenged by the speed, physicality, and decision-making of older grade-level peers. Being one of the stronger players on a younger team can feel good, but it doesn’t always accelerate development the way competing against bigger, faster, more mature players does.

I’d also consider what practices look like. I’d rather have my daughter training in a higher-paced environment with grade-level players than being one of the stars on a younger team. The competition she sees in practice often matters more than the tournament results.

Of course, team quality matters too, and there are certainly cases where a younger top team is stronger than an older second team. But all else being equal, I’d lean toward the tougher pace of play and higher ceiling that comes with staying at grade level.


Completely agree that players being challenged with the level of competition generally helps players advance the fastest. If you are relying on your club team practices for most of your players development then you don't want to be too far off from the average ability level of the team. In other words you don't want to be the clear top player or a clear bottom player.

However, grade level does not automatically equate to a higher quality of play/pace. Level of competition dictates pace and quality much more than age group, as long as the ages are within a year of each other. At virtually all clubs that compete at the upper levels of CHRVA, their top 14s team will beat their 2nd or 3rd 15s team. And the competition level between regional open-level 14U and 15U is a lot closer than the competition levels of open 15s vs club 15s.

We've seen players try both ways. Generally if you are able to make a team at the top level of an age group and see significant playing time, then that's your best bet. Coaching is generally better, competition is better and the team's overall skill level generally progresses much quicker.



Well spoken.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here,

So far DD is playing her grade level up until 14s. It’s been fine but because she is on a twos team in her grade level, we were considering playing down on the top team in order to have better competition and for a chance to her skills to improve. I know some people recommended staying in your grade level, but if we are looking for a way for her to develop faster on a more competitive team at her age group would that be more helpful?


The club would matter but generally, I’d recommend against this, especially at U15. Stay with her grade level and get private lessons to work on skills.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here,

So far DD is playing her grade level up until 14s. It’s been fine but because she is on a twos team in her grade level, we were considering playing down on the top team in order to have better competition and for a chance to her skills to improve. I know some people recommended staying in your grade level, but if we are looking for a way for her to develop faster on a more competitive team at her age group would that be more helpful?


The club would matter but generally, I’d recommend against this, especially at U15. Stay with her grade level and get private lessons to work on skills.


Agree that the club matters. There are 6 CHRVA clubs that have both their 15s teams teams ranked in the top ~1K nationally (Metro Travel, Paramount, MVSA, MOCO, Loudoun Elite, MD Jrs this year). Maybe consider staying age group if you can make one of those 2s teams. But if you can't, a 1s team at a younger age likely provides you with much higher competition level. This is especially true if you are focused on college as an opportunity. Unless your DD is a standout athletic specimen, they won't get much interest from colleges if they are playing on a 2s team that plays regional club tournaments and 2-3rd division regional travel tournaments. Better to play at your age group (grade down) and show that you can play at the highest level possible.
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