If passes, 5 in 5 will have a huge impact in lacrosse...

[Anonymous]

The real question is does a coach value a kid who has 5 years of eligibility over a kid with four years? I think the answer is no. If the kid is really good with lots of potential then I would think it doesn't matter from the coaches perspective. Coaches will recruit the best players regardless. I think players want to maximize their years of eligibility. Reclassing to get an Ivy League spot might makes sense but not acc or b10, since those teams will always have grad transfer able to jump the line on the depth chart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

You think a rising Junior parents are just going to say, hey, let’s repeat soph year, just based on this ruling which limits your eligibility based on age? That’s very counterintuitive and illogical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

You think a rising Junior parents are just going to say, hey, let’s repeat soph year, just based on this ruling which limits your eligibility based on age? That’s very counterintuitive and illogical.

Everyone needs to stop looking at this from lacrosse or any other non-revenue prodcing sport parents. This is about minimizing team friction that stems from football and basketball players in the SEC, Big 10, and ACC jumping around schools due to the lawsuit. The NCAA doesn't believe that 28 year old QBs help their brand so they came up with this rule.

[Anonymous]

My understanding is the proposed five year rule only affects kids who turn 19 before their senior year of HS starts, and there are far less kids who turn 19 before September of their senior year than many of you think there are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

You think a rising Junior parents are just going to say, hey, let’s repeat soph year, just based on this ruling which limits your eligibility based on age? That’s very counterintuitive and illogical.

Everyone needs to stop looking at this from lacrosse or any other non-revenue prodcing sport parents. This is about minimizing team friction that stems from football and basketball players in the SEC, Big 10, and ACC jumping around schools due to the lawsuit. The NCAA doesn't believe that 28 year old QBs help their brand so they came up with this rule.

This has less to do with protecting the brand and more to do with limiting legal exposure. The NCAA was facing a wave of lawsuits from athletes seeking an extra year of eligibility to maximize NIL and revenue-sharing opportunities. This change is meant to shut that down. It's the best card they have to play and it will be approved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real question is does a coach value a kid who has 5 years of eligibility over a kid with four years? I think the answer is no. If the kid is really good with lots of potential then I would think it doesn't matter from the coaches perspective. Coaches will recruit the best players regardless. I think players want to maximize their years of eligibility. Reclassing to get an Ivy League spot might makes sense but not acc or b10, since those teams will always have grad transfer able to jump the line on the depth chart.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

You think a rising Junior parents are just going to say, hey, let’s repeat soph year, just based on this ruling which limits your eligibility based on age? That’s very counterintuitive and illogical.

Everyone needs to stop looking at this from lacrosse or any other non-revenue prodcing sport parents. This is about minimizing team friction that stems from football and basketball players in the SEC, Big 10, and ACC jumping around schools due to the lawsuit. The NCAA doesn't believe that 28 year old QBs help their brand so they came up with this rule.

What? This will impact all sports. Lacrosse will be very impacted. This is the lacrosse thread. Fact is there will be fewer open spots each year with some players staying for 5 and a roster cap of 48

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

You think a rising Junior parents are just going to say, hey, let’s repeat soph year, just based on this ruling which limits your eligibility based on age? That’s very counterintuitive and illogical.

Everyone needs to stop looking at this from lacrosse or any other non-revenue prodcing sport parents. This is about minimizing team friction that stems from football and basketball players in the SEC, Big 10, and ACC jumping around schools due to the lawsuit. The NCAA doesn't believe that 28 year old QBs help their brand so they came up with this rule.

What? This will impact all sports. Lacrosse will be very impacted. This is the lacrosse thread. Fact is there will be fewer open spots each year with some players staying for 5 and a roster cap of 48

True 48 on boys, 38 on girls. The justification is football & bball but the impacts are on every sport.

Don’t expect all players to use the 5 seasons either, but the good starters certainly will be playing 5 and that’s going to cause ripple effects on not only playing time, but roster spots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

Classic start when you lose a point or two. You are clearly a boys lacrosse dad. We are all smart enough to see that you still haven't made much of a case for why reclass volume will increase. You appear to be saying that fewer spots mean that parents will be scrambling for any advantage. Maybe, maybe not. You seem to be avoiding the issue that the compression will affect the lower classes as well, and there may be even fewer spots for 2029s. You may actually end up harming your chances if you are a marginal top 50 program recruit--especially if you are correct and other parents opt for reclass. And nice tacit acknowledgement that you were wrong on 20 year olds.

[Anonymous]

When 5 in 5 hits the numbers of kids looking to play that 5th will be driven a lot by the economy. If it is crappy economy and hard to find jobs, they are more inclined to wait it out with an extra year in school. But currently with transfer portal and redshirts you are looking at about 9% of the slots taken today. I don’t think a team will go higher than 15% of the team as transfers. Team culture would suffer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

Classic start when you lose a point or two. You are clearly a boys lacrosse dad. We are all smart enough to see that you still haven't made much of a case for why reclass volume will increase. You appear to be saying that fewer spots mean that parents will be scrambling for any advantage. Maybe, maybe not. You seem to be avoiding the issue that the compression will affect the lower classes as well, and there may be even fewer spots for 2029s. You may actually end up harming your chances if you are a marginal top 50 program recruit--especially if you are correct and other parents opt for reclass. And nice tacit acknowledgement that you were wrong on 20 year olds.

You aren't that clever. The pp is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just aren't that smart. The "up to" 30% comes from the Covid number. That was the percentage of players changing their college plans from 4 years to 5 years.

If your 2028 isn't getting those looks, Mom and Dad will send them to the reclass factory to get them older then the next class. The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too.

You better believe a substantial portion of 2028's born from 8/1/2008 will be looking to gain that reclass advantage. Parents of kids even older, and we know there are a bunch, will still be looking at it bc the aim is to gain as much advantage as possible to gain entry into a preferred school.

The 5 in 5 is a stupid fix. 4 in 5 remains the way and sports should end at age 25 with no exceptions. If you want to serve in the military or serve your God, go ahead and we respect that but that's your. choice. Get out of the way for the next class and give them a chance.

Classic start when you lose a point or two. You are clearly a boys lacrosse dad. We are all smart enough to see that you still haven't made much of a case for why reclass volume will increase. You appear to be saying that fewer spots mean that parents will be scrambling for any advantage. Maybe, maybe not. You seem to be avoiding the issue that the compression will affect the lower classes as well, and there may be even fewer spots for 2029s. You may actually end up harming your chances if you are a marginal top 50 program recruit--especially if you are correct and other parents opt for reclass. And nice tacit acknowledgement that you were wrong on 20 year olds.

You aren't that clever. The pp is correct.

And you sound like a complete db. Covid already showed parents will take advantage of any extra edge they can get. If it was 30% in covid, look for a similar number to push out to 20 years to start school if they think it will gain them an a school advantage. The future years were addressed - "The post didn't ask about future classes but that's the end effect on future classes too." If a kid enters college at age 20, he gets 5 years to 25, so he was right on that too. Marginal recruits never think they will hurt their chances. It is proven over and over again.

You may want to talk to some people who are going through it or have been through it in covid and then race back to your db anonymous post.

[Anonymous]

Zero girls lax parents talking about reclassing.

Boys maybe a different deal.

Better watch the calendar and not turn 19 before your last year of high school starts, or you will be down a year of eligibility when you start college, regardless of how many times the special bro above says otherwise.

[Anonymous]

U r wrong dude, the legislation specifically covers late college enrollment due to post grad or time off. Start at 20 and finish at 25.

[Anonymous]

It is going to have a big impact on 2028 and I believe a significant impact on 2027 HS recruits as well. If it passes this summer then college coaches are thinking this fall about which of their señior starters they want to convince to stay for a fifth year because they want them to stay and also because they do not want to play against them being lured by a competitor. That is going to decrease the incoming 2027 commits they can allow so some will be let go. The pattern will be established this year and yes, decommiting players is a bad look but I think it will be excused because of the new situation, and the pattern will then continue forward with at least 3-6 players taking fifth years as current students or transfers at top programs. Trickle down will help other programs but not mid to lower tier HS players.