| I think Colorado is trying to follow Carleton. But I think they should follow Grinnell. They used to give out generous merit but now they are focusing on fgli. That is a mistake. |
Colorado college is one of the lacs with the most rich kids. Focus on FGLI is a bunch of bull. They’ve had a fly in for decades, but if none of the kids are coming, you’re not filtering correctly and need to actually get a return from it. If anything, Colorado has been too heavy hitting on the rich students and has forgotten everyone else. |
Not a contradiction, it tells you where they got the number from in the prior sentence. |
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"Colorado College's self-chosen comparison schools extend nationally, however: Bates Bowdoin Carleton Colby Colgate Holy Cross Davidson Hamilton Kenyon Lafayette Macalester Middlebury Pitzer Wesleyan Whitman" That's right of course but that's not the same thing. In other words, CC says that it compares against that list -- CC offers a small school experience, outdoor fun, a safe campus, etc., just like many of the schools on the list -- but in real life, it isn't yielding students against most of those schools. Whitman, Pitzer, sure. They are closer geographically and in-line with selectivity. Hamilton? Wesleyan? Colby? Bates? Middlebury? Those schools aren't crossing with CC. Not because CC isn't great -- I'm sure it is -- but on a relative basis, students aren't struggling to choose between CC and let's say Bowdoin. They may apply to CC, and there's a lot to like about CC, but CC isn't going to be dealing with a lot of kids who were accepted to Bowdoin but who then yield to CC. You can't compare that way when it comes to yielding students and things like tuition discounting. |
Whitman vs CC sounds about right. Pitzer is for a very specific type of environmental sustainability/sociology kid that it really wouldn’t make sense to choose CC over it. I generally agree with the article that their biggest advantage is block plan, but to be honest, most students won’t care unless they can articulate how it’ll help them with their careers. |
Focusing on fgli is a mistake for any college or university. |
| I live in Colorado and would love for my kid to attend but it’s SO expensive. They don’t offer merit aid and we likely will receive an inheritance before my kid applies that would disqualify us from need based aid. I feel like Whitman and Occidental have similar outcomes and they’re pretty generous with merit aid. |
I think when they gave out merit, the school was relatively strong. Now that they moved all the money to fgli, the strong kids lost interest in it. Test optional, full ride, just to get fgli kids in. |
+1000 |
Giving out a bunch of merit money is a sign of institutional weakness. Also, just because someone is FGLI, it doesn’t mean they’re unqualified-that’s just classism. |
I don’t think they’ve ever really given out much merit? Certainly not like Grinnell. |
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My kid got in early action this year and I started to look into the school when they were deferred from their ED choice.
I think there is a lot to like, but it is few grand more than Davidson ( plus flights from the east coast), where my kid got in regular decision. Davidson has a stronger ranking/reputation and is more outcomes focused, which means a lot to anyone paying sticker price who isn’t loaded, |
It was certainly not at Grinnell’s level, but they did cut back on merit. Richmond is another school that seems to be cutting back on merit. Honestly, I think some of these schools are pretending to be something they are not. I agree with a PP that there is a lot to like, including the block plan. Even a little merit would probably help them with enrollment. |
For the love of God, just say “state school.” |
Great opportunity for full pay students who may have weaker stats to get in. |