Mung Chiang named next president of Northwestern

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

No. Born in Tianjin, China, which is the mainland. But so what?

His family immigrated from China to Hong Kong. Literally everyone in Hong Kong (or their ancestors) was once an immigrant from China; many are political exiles who chose to leave China because they disagree with the communists. Learn your Chinese history if you decide to comment on it.

So was he not born in the mainland China?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

No. Born in Tianjin, China, which is the mainland. But so what?

His family immigrated from China to Hong Kong. Literally everyone in Hong Kong (or their ancestors) was once an immigrant from China; many are political exiles who chose to leave China because they disagree with the communists. Learn your Chinese history if you decide to comment on it.

So was he not born in the mainland China?

Yes, he was. I guess that's why he's tough on Chinese students. Like other Chinese American scholars, to climb the ladder, you probably should be ahead of the mainstream.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

MAGA can’t take it.

He had a position under Pompeo back in Trump’s first term. But I think he’s likely anti-CCP.

Worked for Pompeo because he is anti-CCP? Not because he is MAGA?

I think he is at NU to beef up their already strong engineering program.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

If you understand the Pinyin system in Chinese, you can easily tell if someone is from mainland China or not. Individuals from mainland China generally have Romanized names that follow Pinyin, although the very old do not (e.g., Nobel prize winner Chen-Ning Yang). Individuals from Hong Kong/Macau/Taiwan/Singapore/Malaysia/etc. typically do not follow Pinyin but rather their own dialects (e.g., Cantonese, Hokkien), although there appear to be increasing exceptions among younger parents. Mung Chiang would have been Meng Jiang if he were from the mainland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

MAGA can’t take it.

He had a position under Pompeo back in Trump’s first term. But I think he’s likely anti-CCP.

Worked for Pompeo because he is anti-CCP? Not because he is MAGA?

I think he is at NU to beef up their already strong engineering program.

Pompeo was not exactly MAGA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

No. Born in Tianjin, China, which is the mainland. But so what?

His family immigrated from China to Hong Kong. Literally everyone in Hong Kong (or their ancestors) was once an immigrant from China; many are political exiles who chose to leave China because they disagree with the communists. Learn your Chinese history if you decide to comment on it.

So was he not born in the mainland China?

In a geographical sense Hong Kong is “mainland” china. In a political sense, if we are talking about someone born in the late 20th century, no, they were not born in “mainland China.” They were effectively born in Great Britain. One of my good friends growing up was from Hong Kong, born in the 70s and her parents clearly wanted to get out before 1997.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

No. Born in Tianjin, China, which is the mainland. But so what?

His family immigrated from China to Hong Kong. Literally everyone in Hong Kong (or their ancestors) was once an immigrant from China; many are political exiles who chose to leave China because they disagree with the communists. Learn your Chinese history if you decide to comment on it.

So was he not born in the mainland China?

In a geographical sense Hong Kong is “mainland” china. In a political sense, if we are talking about someone born in the late 20th century, no, they were not born in “mainland China.” They were effectively born in Great Britain. One of my good friends growing up was from Hong Kong, born in the 70s and her parents clearly wanted to get out before 1997.

He immigrated to HK when he was 11 years old. So I guess it’s not wrong to say he was born and raised in mainland China even if HK isn’t considered mainland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

No. Born in Tianjin, China, which is the mainland. But so what?

His family immigrated from China to Hong Kong. Literally everyone in Hong Kong (or their ancestors) was once an immigrant from China; many are political exiles who chose to leave China because they disagree with the communists. Learn your Chinese history if you decide to comment on it.

So was he not born in the mainland China?

In a geographical sense Hong Kong is “mainland” china. In a political sense, if we are talking about someone born in the late 20th century, no, they were not born in “mainland China.” They were effectively born in Great Britain. One of my good friends growing up was from Hong Kong, born in the 70s and her parents clearly wanted to get out before 1997.

He immigrated to HK when he was 11 years old. So I guess it’s not wrong to say he was born and raised in mainland China even if HK isn’t considered mainland.

He attended the equivalence of middle school and high school in Hong Kong during his formative years. Mainland Chinese immigrants of his generation or older in Hong Kong were very anti-CCP, as they all got family members suffering from the CCP’s cruelty. Not to mention the poverty they faced in China then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

People in HK might or might not be supporters of the CCP. They are, however, PRC nationals at this point.

There is a tiny chance he left HKG before 1997 (without returning after 1997) and is a "British National (Overseas)" - which in turn might or might not be combined with PRC nationality.

I haven't bothered to look at the specific individual, but that is the approximate landscape relative to HK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is actually from Hong Kong. They tend to be pretty anti-China (or more specifically, anti-Chinese communist government) behind closed doors, similar to how a Taiwanese national would be.

People in HK might or might not be supporters of the CCP. They are, however, PRC nationals at this point.

There is a tiny chance he left HKG before 1997 (without returning after 1997) and is a "British National (Overseas)" - which in turn might or might not be combined with PRC nationality.

I haven't bothered to look at the specific individual, but that is the approximate landscape relative to HK.

He is a US citizen. He might even have renounced his Hong Kong citizenship. Hongkongers carry a different passport than mainland Chinese.

[Anonymous]

Talk about academic chops. Tops in Hong Kong, tops at Queens College, Stanford BS, MS, PhD. Prof at Princeton, and on and on.

It's refreshing to see a non-humanities person run a university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern lacks programs and majors that are “standouts.” Hopefully this new president can help.

Northwestern has several programs- communications, music, engineering to name a few- that are standouts and among the top programs in the country.

There is one (maybe two) posters on here that have a weird obsessive anti Northwestern bias. It's really weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chiang is the former president of Purdue. In selecting Chiang, the Board of Trustees at Purdue bypassed the open search process and the whole selection lacked transparency. Same with this recent selection by Northwestern.

At Purdue, Chiang declined to act against an administrator who mocked Asian languages at a graduation ceremony, refused to take any stances on social or political issues, weakened tenure and diversity policies, declined to meet directly with students, and did not respond quickly to public record requests.

Definitely a very safe, conservative choice for Northwestern.

The Northwestern community is pretty excited about this choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

He is a US citizen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He’s a Chinese national.

MAGA can’t take it.

Just stop.