Key Elementary School - Diversity (staff and students)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Key will be fine. Definitely not worth lotterying outside of your neighborhood. It's good for kids to go to the neighborhood school for the sense of community (I think, and research says!).

Why? If this is an important consideration for OP, it's not a difficult preference to satisfy in DC.

Because the kids don't care. The thing OP mentions -- playdates, birthday parties, etc -- won't be an issue. It will be OP herself who is more aware of being different. Which seems -- to me, at least -- a not big reason to schlep your kids to a different neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi - moving to the Palisades this summer and we will be zoned for Key Elementary School. I can see from the stats that there is some diversity - 10% Black about 15% Hispanic and 5% Asian. Are the kids from these backgrounds well integrated into the social aspect of the school - i.e., playdates, parties, etc? Does the school have a diverse staff - specifically teachers? I’m Black and diversity at previous schools has always been limited to the administrative staff, lunch ladies, maintenance staff and maybe a few classroom helpers. And we can’t change location of our housing - we will be moving into and eventually purchasing a relative’s house (she is going into nursing care).

Thanks!

I can’t speak to Key specifically, but generally the diversity among student and staff in upper NW DCPS isn’t the best. It isn’t the worst, but it’s not ideal. However, the feeder middle and high school (Hardy and MacArthur) are way more diverse with both staff and kids and it’s a much better experience for families of color (we are not white and have had better experiences at the middle school level bc of the diversity).

What is ideal? Edscape has DC Total Public K-5 at 60% Black, 18% Latino, 16% White, 6% Other. Is the goal to find a school that comes closes to that?

NP but I would think ideal is a scenario where you are pretty confident your kid won’t be an only or one of two in a class. Look at Lafayette for instance- it’s 10% black, which means your kid could be the only black male or black female in the class. I know of one school where there is only one black male in the entire grade. This isn’t the school’s fault, but it is something many parents would consider before enrolling.

My son is the only Black kid in his grade. Not ideal and why we are looking to move elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Key will be fine. Definitely not worth lotterying outside of your neighborhood. It's good for kids to go to the neighborhood school for the sense of community (I think, and research says!).

Why? If this is an important consideration for OP, it's not a difficult preference to satisfy in DC.

Because the kids don't care. The thing OP mentions -- playdates, birthday parties, etc -- won't be an issue. It will be OP herself who is more aware of being different. Which seems -- to me, at least -- a not big reason to schlep your kids to a different neighborhood.

Let me guess - you are white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Key will be fine. Definitely not worth lotterying outside of your neighborhood. It's good for kids to go to the neighborhood school for the sense of community (I think, and research says!).

Why? If this is an important consideration for OP, it's not a difficult preference to satisfy in DC.

Because the kids don't care. The thing OP mentions -- playdates, birthday parties, etc -- won't be an issue. It will be OP herself who is more aware of being different. Which seems -- to me, at least -- a not big reason to schlep your kids to a different neighborhood.

Lots of parents shlep their kids to different neighborhoods for reasons the kids don't care about. DC has this whole lottery system, you don't have to go to your neighborhood school, and for once this is something a parent wants that they can just easily get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Key will be fine. Definitely not worth lotterying outside of your neighborhood. It's good for kids to go to the neighborhood school for the sense of community (I think, and research says!).

Why? If this is an important consideration for OP, it's not a difficult preference to satisfy in DC.

Because the kids don't care. The thing OP mentions -- playdates, birthday parties, etc -- won't be an issue. It will be OP herself who is more aware of being different. Which seems -- to me, at least -- a not big reason to schlep your kids to a different neighborhood.

Lots of parents shlep their kids to different neighborhoods for reasons the kids don't care about. DC has this whole lottery system, you don't have to go to your neighborhood school, and for once this is something a parent wants that they can just easily get.

That teaches a kids a negative lesson -- that they can't be friends with kids that don't look like them -- while forgoing positive benefits like walking to school.

[Anonymous]

^^ It's also a parent putting her needs and past ahead of the kids' needs and world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Key will be fine. Definitely not worth lotterying outside of your neighborhood. It's good for kids to go to the neighborhood school for the sense of community (I think, and research says!).

Why? If this is an important consideration for OP, it's not a difficult preference to satisfy in DC.

Because the kids don't care. The thing OP mentions -- playdates, birthday parties, etc -- won't be an issue. It will be OP herself who is more aware of being different. Which seems -- to me, at least -- a not big reason to schlep your kids to a different neighborhood.

Lots of parents shlep their kids to different neighborhoods for reasons the kids don't care about. DC has this whole lottery system, you don't have to go to your neighborhood school, and for once this is something a parent wants that they can just easily get.

That teaches a kids a negative lesson -- that they can't be friends with kids that don't look like them -- while forgoing positive benefits like walking to school.

Most white kids in DC outside of upper NW or part of Capitol Hill are not going to their neighborhood public school. Of course this matters to lots of parents. And it matters to lots of kids, too, but an elementary school student who has not been in an extreme minority before is not going to be able to predict how this will play out, so the parent has to be one making the call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi - moving to the Palisades this summer and we will be zoned for Key Elementary School. I can see from the stats that there is some diversity - 10% Black about 15% Hispanic and 5% Asian. Are the kids from these backgrounds well integrated into the social aspect of the school - i.e., playdates, parties, etc? Does the school have a diverse staff - specifically teachers? I’m Black and diversity at previous schools has always been limited to the administrative staff, lunch ladies, maintenance staff and maybe a few classroom helpers. And we can’t change location of our housing - we will be moving into and eventually purchasing a relative’s house (she is going into nursing care).

Thanks!

I can’t speak to Key specifically, but generally the diversity among student and staff in upper NW DCPS isn’t the best. It isn’t the worst, but it’s not ideal. However, the feeder middle and high school (Hardy and MacArthur) are way more diverse with both staff and kids and it’s a much better experience for families of color (we are not white and have had better experiences at the middle school level bc of the diversity).

What is ideal? Edscape has DC Total Public K-5 at 60% Black, 18% Latino, 16% White, 6% Other. Is the goal to find a school that comes closes to that?

NP but I would think ideal is a scenario where you are pretty confident your kid won’t be an only or one of two in a class. Look at Lafayette for instance- it’s 10% black, which means your kid could be the only black male or black female in the class. I know of one school where there is only one black male in the entire grade. This isn’t the school’s fault, but it is something many parents would consider before enrolling.

Interesting. And something I hadn’t considered as a parent of kids in the Other group. We always have potential of being an “only” so not sure it matters what group dominates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Key will be fine. Definitely not worth lotterying outside of your neighborhood. It's good for kids to go to the neighborhood school for the sense of community (I think, and research says!).

Why? If this is an important consideration for OP, it's not a difficult preference to satisfy in DC.

Because the kids don't care. The thing OP mentions -- playdates, birthday parties, etc -- won't be an issue. It will be OP herself who is more aware of being different. Which seems -- to me, at least -- a not big reason to schlep your kids to a different neighborhood.

Kids arent the ones setting up playdates and other events.. its the parents and who they are most comfortable with.

[Anonymous]

Put more emphasis on ensuring your black child is high performing so that can apply to a private middle school — one that has a curated population of other high-performing black kids in critical mass. This isn’t something we can find in public schools.

[Anonymous]

Key alumni parent here. Our (white) kids' best Black friends in elementary school were from African families -- Ethiopian, Nigerian, Ghanaian, various West African World Bank folks. There was even one dad who was big somebody at the Bahamian embassy. Lots of great parties and holiday events, terrific food, languages spoken -- but a different flavor from much of Black DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Key alumni parent here. Our (white) kids' best Black friends in elementary school were from African families -- Ethiopian, Nigerian, Ghanaian, various West African World Bank folks. There was even one dad who was big somebody at the Bahamian embassy. Lots of great parties and holiday events, terrific food, languages spoken -- but a different flavor from much of Black DC.

I get it. Africans tend to be a lot more open toward White Americans than Black Americans can be sometimes, understandably. (I have an African parent and a Black American parent so I’ve observed this).

[Anonymous]

Key is known for many things, diversity is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Key is known for many things, diversity is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Key is known for many things, diversity is not one of them.

Actually, the Key stats that OP quoted -- 10% Black about 15% Hispanic and 5% Asian -- are right in-line with the US as a whole.

So Key has less minority representation than much of DC, but more than adjacent neighborhoods in MD and VA.