Rolling Gradebook- Where is the research ?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget that FCPS also believes that having teachers write “I can identify…” on the board will automatically make the student more engaged and be less distracted in the room.


That was a thing maybe ten years ago. I haven’t seen anyone do that in quite a few years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would just love to see some sources indicating rolling gradebook is the right move. If this hasn’t been fully thought through and isn’t based on current research, why is it being implemented?


Did you read my earlier post? I explained why. With retakes and the ability to turn in late work, a rolling gradebook makes it easier to keep track of everything for teachers. Chill out.

I doubt your child would actually do better with a traditional gradebook.
Anonymous
They don’t need research to justify the switch anyway. If it works better for teachers that’s enough. It doesn’t really change kkds’ final grade either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They shared a bunch of research and a grading white paper a couple of years ago. Will be on boarddocs.

My main sense from reading it back then was that educational research lacks rigor and it is easy to find a study to say whatever you want it to.



Well, to be fair, it’s hard to do a double blind study etc etc in a classroom. By nature, it will not be as rigorous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They don’t need research to justify the switch anyway. If it works better for teachers that’s enough. It doesn’t really change kkds’ final grade either.


I don't know that I would say it works better for teachers. I used a rolling gradebook years ago and hated it. The students were quick to catch on that if they worked even kind of hard the first quarter, they could do next to nothing the last quarter or two. As we transition back to a rolling gradebook, myself and most of my colleagues are not looking forward to it. I realize that we are just one data point, however. I also would like to see large-scale research on why it's better for students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t need research to justify the switch anyway. If it works better for teachers that’s enough. It doesn’t really change kkds’ final grade either.


I don't know that I would say it works better for teachers. I used a rolling gradebook years ago and hated it. The students were quick to catch on that if they worked even kind of hard the first quarter, they could do next to nothing the last quarter or two. As we transition back to a rolling gradebook, myself and most of my colleagues are not looking forward to it. I realize that we are just one data point, however. I also would like to see large-scale research on why it's better for students.


What do you do if a student misses tests the last week of a quarter due to illness? Do they just not count in the gradebook for that quarter?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are so many issues with rolling gradebook. Here are a few:


Creates inconsistent performance tracking:Teachers lose a clear, cumulative picture of a student’s progress over time, making it harder to identify patterns of improvement or decline.

Increases confusion for students and parents: Constantly changing grades can be difficult to interpret, leading to misunderstandings about actual performance and standing.

Complicates grading transparency: It becomes harder to explain how a final grade was calculated when earlier scores are replaced or excluded.

Encourages strategic rather than genuine learning:Students may focus on “gaming the system” (e.g., only trying hard later) instead of maintaining consistent effort and mastering material.

Adds administrative complexity for teachers:Managing a rolling system often requires more time, tracking, and explanation compared to a traditional cumulative gradebook.

Delayed sense of progress lowers motivation: As the year goes on, each new grade has less impact on the overall average, so students may feel like their effort isn’t making a meaningful difference—making it harder to stay motivated.

“Can’t move the needle” frustration
Students who are trying to improve later in the term may feel discouraged when strong performances only result in minimal grade changes, leading to disengagement.

Reduced incentive to maintain effort at the end:Students with already high grades may feel that a few poor scores won’t significantly hurt their average, which can lead to a drop in effort or carelessness.

Perception that effort isn’t rewarded fairly:When improvements don’t noticeably shift grades, students may feel the system is unresponsive, reducing their willingness to keep trying.

Encourages apathy after reaching a “safe” grade:Once students calculate that their grade is unlikely to change much, they may stop putting in full effort, especially near the end of the course.


If you're a teacher can you explain more about all the above from your experience? For example, how is it more complex to administer? The grade is the grade. What tracking is there, since it is all calculated? How is "You have an 88.2%" as a cohesive grade more time consuming or complex then "You had an 87.0 first quarter, but 88.0 for second quarter and that's an 87.0 for the semester. Then you had an 84 for 3Q, and 88 currently in 4Q which could be an 86 for the semester, which would then become an 87.5 overall for the year"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are so many issues with rolling gradebook. Here are a few:


Creates inconsistent performance tracking:Teachers lose a clear, cumulative picture of a student’s progress over time, making it harder to identify patterns of improvement or decline.

Increases confusion for students and parents: Constantly changing grades can be difficult to interpret, leading to misunderstandings about actual performance and standing.

Complicates grading transparency: It becomes harder to explain how a final grade was calculated when earlier scores are replaced or excluded.

Encourages strategic rather than genuine learning:Students may focus on “gaming the system” (e.g., only trying hard later) instead of maintaining consistent effort and mastering material.

Adds administrative complexity for teachers:Managing a rolling system often requires more time, tracking, and explanation compared to a traditional cumulative gradebook.

Delayed sense of progress lowers motivation: As the year goes on, each new grade has less impact on the overall average, so students may feel like their effort isn’t making a meaningful difference—making it harder to stay motivated.

“Can’t move the needle” frustration
Students who are trying to improve later in the term may feel discouraged when strong performances only result in minimal grade changes, leading to disengagement.

Reduced incentive to maintain effort at the end:Students with already high grades may feel that a few poor scores won’t significantly hurt their average, which can lead to a drop in effort or carelessness.

Perception that effort isn’t rewarded fairly:When improvements don’t noticeably shift grades, students may feel the system is unresponsive, reducing their willingness to keep trying.

Encourages apathy after reaching a “safe” grade:Once students calculate that their grade is unlikely to change much, they may stop putting in full effort, especially near the end of the course.


If you're a teacher can you explain more about all the above from your experience? For example, how is it more complex to administer? The grade is the grade. What tracking is there, since it is all calculated? How is "You have an 88.2%" as a cohesive grade more time consuming or complex then "You had an 87.0 first quarter, but 88.0 for second quarter and that's an 87.0 for the semester. Then you had an 84 for 3Q, and 88 currently in 4Q which could be an 86 for the semester, which would then become an 87.5 overall for the year"?


One thing that pops up with rolling gradebook is the difficulty to balance point distribution or weighting between different quarters. For example if 100 total points are assigned during Q1, but only 75 assigned during Q2, material from Q1 is having a greater impact on the overall grade.

At end of the year when a teacher looks back and sees 28 grades for the year( required 7 each Q), it may seem like a lot however less grades means each grade is now much higher stakes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget that FCPS also believes that having teachers write “I can identify…” on the board will automatically make the student more engaged and be less distracted in the room.


That was a thing maybe ten years ago. I haven’t seen anyone do that in quite a few years.


Our AP lost her mind on teachers last year if our learning targets were not perfect. She would chastise us and patronize us for having less-than-acceptable-to-her learning targets posted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t need research to justify the switch anyway. If it works better for teachers that’s enough. It doesn’t really change kkds’ final grade either.


I don't know that I would say it works better for teachers. I used a rolling gradebook years ago and hated it. The students were quick to catch on that if they worked even kind of hard the first quarter, they could do next to nothing the last quarter or two. As we transition back to a rolling gradebook, myself and most of my colleagues are not looking forward to it. I realize that we are just one data point, however. I also would like to see large-scale research on why it's better for students.


This +100
Anonymous
Worse than the rolling gradebook is the required 7 assignments. Teachers spend a lot of time just trying to collect work from students to meet that goal. There's no research for that either. School board members get some emails and phone calls from a couple of squeaky wheels and start making radical changes without any kind of research. That's the problem with a school board run by politicians who are just looking for a stepping stone to another office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Worse than the rolling gradebook is the required 7 assignments. Teachers spend a lot of time just trying to collect work from students to meet that goal. There's no research for that either. School board members get some emails and phone calls from a couple of squeaky wheels and start making radical changes without any kind of research. That's the problem with a school board run by politicians who are just looking for a stepping stone to another office.


This makes more sense to me in terms of wanting to have multiple data points to assess student learning so in that sense I would say that actually is research based.

A rolling gradebook is a going to have real impacts on student motivation and will make it harder to view achievement trends. And may actually lead to less overall grades meaning students will actually have less opportunities to demonstrate their learning.

Implementing such a huge change that without a large body of research to back it up is concerning.

The fact is that rolling gradebook is great for some content areas or types of courses but doesn’t work well for others. This is what many FCPS educators who are in the classroom are saying.

Teachers are feeling more and more like they have less and less say on new policies that are rolled out on the county level. If strong research is there to support a policy, buy-in will be increased. But when the research isn’t there, teachers start to feel stuck in a washing machine of changing policies implemented without much forethought.

Where is the research that indicates rolling gradebook is indeed better for student outcomes and balances teacher support?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Worse than the rolling gradebook is the required 7 assignments. Teachers spend a lot of time just trying to collect work from students to meet that goal. There's no research for that either. School board members get some emails and phone calls from a couple of squeaky wheels and start making radical changes without any kind of research. That's the problem with a school board run by politicians who are just looking for a stepping stone to another office.


This makes more sense to me in terms of wanting to have multiple data points to assess student learning so in that sense I would say that actually is research based.

A rolling gradebook is a going to have real impacts on student motivation and will make it harder to view achievement trends. And may actually lead to less overall grades meaning students will actually have less opportunities to demonstrate their learning.

Implementing such a huge change that without a large body of research to back it up is concerning.

The fact is that rolling gradebook is great for some content areas or types of courses but doesn’t work well for others. This is what many FCPS educators who are in the classroom are saying.

Teachers are feeling more and more like they have less and less say on new policies that are rolled out on the county level. If strong research is there to support a policy, buy-in will be increased. But when the research isn’t there, teachers start to feel stuck in a washing machine of changing policies implemented without much forethought.

Where is the research that indicates rolling gradebook is indeed better for student outcomes and balances teacher support?



What is your main issue with rolling gradebook?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where is the research that indicates this style of gradebook is superior to a traditional gradebook for all course types? This is being pushed out to ALL high schools starting next year and staff are raising concerns as it does not seem to be grounded in research. While there are some positives to this grading model for some courses, it does not seem suited to all content areas.

Why is FCPS adopting policies that are not thoroughly researched, tested, and proven? Where is the peer reviewed educational research that clearly indicates this is the right approach for all ?


Is there research saying the traditional gradebook is better?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is the research that indicates this style of gradebook is superior to a traditional gradebook for all course types? This is being pushed out to ALL high schools starting next year and staff are raising concerns as it does not seem to be grounded in research. While there are some positives to this grading model for some courses, it does not seem suited to all content areas.

Why is FCPS adopting policies that are not thoroughly researched, tested, and proven? Where is the peer reviewed educational research that clearly indicates this is the right approach for all ?


Is there research saying the traditional gradebook is better?


Currently teachers have the ability to use either grading method and can choose what works best for their content area. This is going away next year so everyone will be forced into this model.

Hence the request for making a research-informed decision. Why take away flexibility if there is no research to indicate it is better and many teachers have indicated it will not work best for their content area?
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