Gamified teaching

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Anonymous wrote:I'd teacher have high standards they will be messed with and fired by an apathetic system that cares only coverups of crime and grade inflation. Your boss will mismanage your time, bully, and fire because there are no real rules.


But I think studens want this. They want to learn. If results are postive, why would admin be upset. There is no downside. Students will learn more and use better retention, teachers will have greater job satisfaction because they finally get to actually use their brain and TEACH, and schools don’t have to spend $$$$ on these dumb computer/edtech programs. Everyone wins


Yes, in general students want to learn, unfortunately leadership at K-12 educational institutions is mediocre at best. This is what happens when equity becomes the goal for a generation or more. Administrators don’t want to be shown up by their elementary school kids. Going to take a lot of effort and time to fix the K-12 education system in America.



Kids would rather be on TikTok or YouTube like they do at home. Many do not want to learn. Many more cannot learn at the pace that schooling is offered, so they are marked failing rather than being offered material at their grade level.


Where are kids marked failing? It's all meets and exceeds.


I'm a teacher and you would not believe the amount of crap we get from our administrators when we actually fail a kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd teacher have high standards they will be messed with and fired by an apathetic system that cares only coverups of crime and grade inflation. Your boss will mismanage your time, bully, and fire because there are no real rules.


But I think studens want this. They want to learn. If results are postive, why would admin be upset. There is no downside. Students will learn more and use better retention, teachers will have greater job satisfaction because they finally get to actually use their brain and TEACH, and schools don’t have to spend $$$$ on these dumb computer/edtech programs. Everyone wins


Yes, in general students want to learn, unfortunately leadership at K-12 educational institutions is mediocre at best. This is what happens when equity becomes the goal for a generation or more. Administrators don’t want to be shown up by their elementary school kids. Going to take a lot of effort and time to fix the K-12 education system in America.



Kids would rather be on TikTok or YouTube like they do at home. Many do not want to learn. Many more cannot learn at the pace that schooling is offered, so they are marked failing rather than being offered material at their grade level.


Where are kids marked failing? It's all meets and exceeds.


I'm a teacher and you would not believe the amount of crap we get from our administrators when we actually fail a kid.


Where? I’m at LCPS and currently for MP3 I have about 7 F’s in a 25 student roster. Class average is 65%. I’m not giving free grades.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd teacher have high standards they will be messed with and fired by an apathetic system that cares only coverups of crime and grade inflation. Your boss will mismanage your time, bully, and fire because there are no real rules.


But I think studens want this. They want to learn. If results are postive, why would admin be upset. There is no downside. Students will learn more and use better retention, teachers will have greater job satisfaction because they finally get to actually use their brain and TEACH, and schools don’t have to spend $$$$ on these dumb computer/edtech programs. Everyone wins


Yes, in general students want to learn, unfortunately leadership at K-12 educational institutions is mediocre at best. This is what happens when equity becomes the goal for a generation or more. Administrators don’t want to be shown up by their elementary school kids. Going to take a lot of effort and time to fix the K-12 education system in America.



Kids would rather be on TikTok or YouTube like they do at home. Many do not want to learn. Many more cannot learn at the pace that schooling is offered, so they are marked failing rather than being offered material at their grade level.


Where are kids marked failing? It's all meets and exceeds.


I'm a teacher and you would not believe the amount of crap we get from our administrators when we actually fail a kid.


Where? I’m at LCPS and currently for MP3 I have about 7 F’s in a 25 student roster. Class average is 65%. I’m not giving free grades.


FCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The teachers are the good ones. At least the ones fresh out of school usually have not been corrupted yet. Its when they are forced to manipulate the data to pretend the tech and the coverups are good and "business as usual" when they start becoming disillusioned. This is because the kids are not becoming better but becoming worse students but their grades get better. No one understands it. It's just a money game like everything else.


I’m not so sure teachers that have graduated in the past 15 years even know how to actually teach. They’d be lost without these games and tech programs
Anonymous
The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.


Not meaning this is a snarky way. But if teachers aren’t planning lessons anymore (not like they used to), and the slides are already made, and EdTech programs you must used are there, and graded is more or less automated by computer tests/quizzes or multiple choice tests- what are you spending all the outside class time hours doing? Not trying to be snarky. But it’s very clear teachers are spending less time than ever creating lessons, materials, grading hand written work, and actually teaching- but they are all complaining about the hours worked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.


Not meaning this is a snarky way. But if teachers aren’t planning lessons anymore (not like they used to), and the slides are already made, and EdTech programs you must used are there, and graded is more or less automated by computer tests/quizzes or multiple choice tests- what are you spending all the outside class time hours doing? Not trying to be snarky. But it’s very clear teachers are spending less time than ever creating lessons, materials, grading hand written work, and actually teaching- but they are all complaining about the hours worked.


DP. There are many teachers and we don’t operate the same way or under the same conditions.

I have moved to almost no laptop use in my classroom. Assignments are on paper again, including handwritten essays.

And I don’t receive any curriculum from my school, so I have to create it myself.

So there’s all my night and weekend work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.



Back before the OpenSchools nutters were openly trashing teachers.

Now they’re trashing them over “EdTech”.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.



Back before the OpenSchools nutters were openly trashing teachers.

Now they’re trashing them over “EdTech”.



Teachers get trashed bc they aren’t actually teaching anymore then complain endlessly if they work over 40 hrs per week (pretty much every salaried professional also does).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.



Back before the OpenSchools nutters were openly trashing teachers.

Now they’re trashing them over “EdTech”.



Teachers get trashed bc they aren’t actually teaching anymore then complain endlessly if they work over 40 hrs per week (pretty much every salaried professional also does).


Yeah, and your “trashing” is only pushing those of us still working hard out of the profession. You know, those of us who give up our weekends to provide your child with a far superior experience than what the districts provide.

The lazy teachers? They don’t care what you say. Those of us who are committed to your kids and our schools are the only ones who care.

So as you trash us, more of us leave. It’s hard to put in all this extra anguish and work just to get trashed by the very people you try to help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.


Not meaning this is a snarky way. But if teachers aren’t planning lessons anymore (not like they used to), and the slides are already made, and EdTech programs you must used are there, and graded is more or less automated by computer tests/quizzes or multiple choice tests- what are you spending all the outside class time hours doing? Not trying to be snarky. But it’s very clear teachers are spending less time than ever creating lessons, materials, grading hand written work, and actually teaching- but they are all complaining about the hours worked.


DP. There are many teachers and we don’t operate the same way or under the same conditions.

I have moved to almost no laptop use in my classroom. Assignments are on paper again, including handwritten essays.

And I don’t receive any curriculum from my school, so I have to create it myself.

So there’s all my night and weekend work.


Thank you!!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.



Back before the OpenSchools nutters were openly trashing teachers.

Now they’re trashing them over “EdTech”.



Teachers get trashed bc they aren’t actually teaching anymore then complain endlessly if they work over 40 hrs per week (pretty much every salaried professional also does).


Yeah, and your “trashing” is only pushing those of us still working hard out of the profession. You know, those of us who give up our weekends to provide your child with a far superior experience than what the districts provide.

The lazy teachers? They don’t care what you say. Those of us who are committed to your kids and our schools are the only ones who care.

So as you trash us, more of us leave. It’s hard to put in all this extra anguish and work just to get trashed by the very people you try to help.


Go ahead and leave. Games have already replaced you
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.



Back before the OpenSchools nutters were openly trashing teachers.

Now they’re trashing them over “EdTech”.



Teachers get trashed bc they aren’t actually teaching anymore then complain endlessly if they work over 40 hrs per week (pretty much every salaried professional also does).


Teacher haters are the worst human trash out there.

GFY.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new teachers don't have any tenure, job security, or support from fellow teachers or admin. We are actually also required to mess with the numbers to appease upper mgmt. We have to play this game and push 60 + hours per week.

The teachers that are tenured could (and many do) take naps, surf the web, plan during class, etc. and you guys make the profession get a bad rep of teachers are lazy, entitled, etc.

Don't y'all remember when you got out of college. Was it as corrupted and chaotic in schools as it is in the modern age. I think not. Y'all enjoyed and got tenure in the good old days when teachers got respect or could give detention.



Back before the OpenSchools nutters were openly trashing teachers.

Now they’re trashing them over “EdTech”.



Teachers get trashed bc they aren’t actually teaching anymore then complain endlessly if they work over 40 hrs per week (pretty much every salaried professional also does).


Yeah, and your “trashing” is only pushing those of us still working hard out of the profession. You know, those of us who give up our weekends to provide your child with a far superior experience than what the districts provide.

The lazy teachers? They don’t care what you say. Those of us who are committed to your kids and our schools are the only ones who care.

So as you trash us, more of us leave. It’s hard to put in all this extra anguish and work just to get trashed by the very people you try to help.


I'm sorry for the loud-mouthed a-holes.

There are still many parents who appreciate and respect teachers.

Anonymous
Magafcktrd has arrived. You though I was bad for speaking up for teachers who are forced to manipulate data. Check out this douche.
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