UVA Yield

[Anonymous]

LOL is this an Echols humblebrag? A troll post? What?

Don't go. Throw your money away. Nobody cares.

[Anonymous]

I actually think you should listen to your kid and see how this plays out. Perhaps it isn’t just the swag, maybe your student feels uva isn’t the right fit or simply prefers another college. You can, indeed, decline uva.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is your kid picking college based on mail volume and swag? If so, should pick somewhere else. It is not coming from UVA.

So much for loving the school that loves you back? It's not just mail. Having students and faculty reach out from other schools has been so helpful to confirm fit.

If you want this kind of thing, then you aren't a good fit at UVA or any medium to large state school. The kid of a friend was making noise about choosing Florida over in-state UVA because Florida "loved her more" and my friend was about to lose his mind. Not just because of the money or ranking or reputation, but because the swag-love is a transparent and manipulative marketing gesture and in no way indicative of the college experience at UF. He couldn't believe his kid was falling for it. These schools are not an intimate small liberal arts campus where you dine with your professor after class.

Also, this is my taxpayer money! Good for UVA for not playing stupid games.

I think you missed the most important part here -- older students and faculty from other similarly ranked schools reaching out. This seems so key, and it's happening for the other honors colleges. Echols - nada.

I understand that it is nice and flattering when they do reach out but, if these are state schools like a UNC, then it is truly not indicative of the experience your child will have at those similarly ranked schools. No one is going to be reaching out and making sure your kid has a warm and fuzzy experience. These letters are part of the school's marketing and outreach, that's it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Is your kid picking college based on mail volume and swag? If so, should pick somewhere else. It is not coming from UVA.

So much for loving the school that loves you back? It's not just mail. Having students and faculty reach out from other schools has been so helpful to confirm fit.

If you want this kind of thing, then you aren't a good fit at UVA or any medium to large state school. The kid of a friend was making noise about choosing Florida over in-state UVA because Florida "loved her more" and my friend was about to lose his mind. Not just because of the money or ranking or reputation, but because the swag-love is a transparent and manipulative marketing gesture and in no way indicative of the college experience at UF. He couldn't believe his kid was falling for it. These schools are not an intimate small liberal arts campus where you dine with your professor after class.

Also, this is my taxpayer money! Good for UVA for not playing stupid games.

I think you missed the most important part here -- older students and faculty from other similarly ranked schools reaching out. This seems so key, and it's happening for the other honors colleges. Echols - nada.

I understand that it is nice and flattering when they do reach out but, if these are state schools like a UNC, then it is truly not indicative of the experience your child will have at those similarly ranked schools. No one is going to be reaching out and making sure your kid has a warm and fuzzy experience. These letters are part of the school's marketing and outreach, that's it.

Maybe, maybe not. If another college is trying harder I would listen. Maybe UVA could stand to do more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel like UVA has just given up on yield? DC got into a couple other honors colleges at “public ivies” and gets so much mail, swag and communication. I’d really love to pay in state tuition, but DC is not convinced and Echols has basically sent one email saying he’s in, but no swag or engagement.

Well, I think it's the opposite. The schools that need to send swag are worried about yield. UVA is not because most rational people see its quality and don't make decisions based on who sends a bumper sticker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel like UVA has just given up on yield? DC got into a couple other honors colleges at “public ivies” and gets so much mail, swag and communication. I’d really love to pay in state tuition, but DC is not convinced and Echols has basically sent one email saying he’s in, but no swag or engagement.

Is this some sort of coded language where only UVA insiders know what you are talking about?

Nope, I'm mystified at the idiocy too.

signed,

UVA grad

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel like UVA has just given up on yield? DC got into a couple other honors colleges at “public ivies” and gets so much mail, swag and communication. I’d really love to pay in state tuition, but DC is not convinced and Echols has basically sent one email saying he’s in, but no swag or engagement.

Well, I think it's the opposite. The schools that need to send swag are worried about yield. UVA is not because most rational people see its quality and don't make decisions based on who sends a bumper sticker.

Some rational people do indeed, decline uva. OP, maybe your DC doesn’t want to go to college with people like this and connected to such arrogance forever. Other universities are catching up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your kid picking college based on mail volume and swag? If so, should pick somewhere else. It is not coming from UVA.

So much for loving the school that loves you back? It's not just mail. Having students and faculty reach out from other schools has been so helpful to confirm fit.

If you want this kind of thing, then you aren't a good fit at UVA or any medium to large state school. The kid of a friend was making noise about choosing Florida over in-state UVA because Florida "loved her more" and my friend was about to lose his mind. Not just because of the money or ranking or reputation, but because the swag-love is a transparent and manipulative marketing gesture and in no way indicative of the college experience at UF. He couldn't believe his kid was falling for it. These schools are not an intimate small liberal arts campus where you dine with your professor after class.

Also, this is my taxpayer money! Good for UVA for not playing stupid games.

I think you missed the most important part here -- older students and faculty from other similarly ranked schools reaching out. This seems so key, and it's happening for the other honors colleges. Echols - nada.

are they really similarly ranked though? "public ivy" is not an actual thing.

[Anonymous]

UVA doesn't care about yield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re the only public college that meets full need. I’m guessing they’ve made a conscious decision about where the money goes.

This is a moment to talk to him about values. What factors should we value in these decisions?

Agree. Love this about UVA. Changed my life and still makes me emotional. Other schools' packages were nowhere near as good. I'm happy to continue to donate to help support meeting full need, whether my kid gets in or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel like UVA has just given up on yield? DC got into a couple other honors colleges at “public ivies” and gets so much mail, swag and communication. I’d really love to pay in state tuition, but DC is not convinced and Echols has basically sent one email saying he’s in, but no swag or engagement.

Well, I think it's the opposite. The schools that need to send swag are worried about yield. UVA is not because most rational people see its quality and don't make decisions based on who sends a bumper sticker.

Yup. And those schools are paying lots of money to “enrollment management” firms in desperate hope of increasing their yield—especially among the OOS students. They need that OOS tuition money!

[Anonymous]

UVA's yield used to be over 50 percent. It's now well below that. At the same time, the number of applications is booming and the quality of each incoming class is higher than the one before it.

With the Common Application and the college admissions frenzy most students are applying to many more colleges than they have in the past, yet each can only enroll in one school. The yield rate for virtually every school has dropped over the years. It's simple math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA's yield used to be over 50 percent. It's now well below that. At the same time, the number of applications is booming and the quality of each incoming class is higher than the one before it.

With the Common Application and the college admissions frenzy most students are applying to many more colleges than they have in the past, yet each can only enroll in one school. The yield rate for virtually every school has dropped over the years. It's simple math.

Has the yield for in-state dropped? Isn't it around 65%? That is a pretty great yield. Out of state yield isn't impressive. At that sticker price, I don't know why anyone would go to a state school!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA's yield used to be over 50 percent. It's now well below that. At the same time, the number of applications is booming and the quality of each incoming class is higher than the one before it.

With the Common Application and the college admissions frenzy most students are applying to many more colleges than they have in the past, yet each can only enroll in one school. The yield rate for virtually every school has dropped over the years. It's simple math.

Has the yield for in-state dropped? Isn't it around 65%? That is a pretty great yield. Out of state yield isn't impressive. At that sticker price, I don't know why anyone would go to a state school!

Yet, many do.

[Anonymous]

2016 Yield
In-state 58%
Out-of-state 22%

2025 Yield
In-state 62%
Out-of-state 24%

Yield went up slightly for each. We'll see how that holds up this year with the application changes.