Accepted UMich OOS and CMU, but waitlisted at Case Western?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you considered the possibility that Case honestly just didn't WANT your kid? I mean, it's not a non-selective school.

If that's the case, why not just reject? Why string the kid along twice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have you considered the possibility that Case honestly just didn't WANT your kid? I mean, it's not a non-selective school.

If that's the case, why not just reject? Why string the kid along twice?

It’s what they do. Yield protection at its finest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You probably didn’t demonstrate interest in the supplemental essays. The same happened to my son with Purdue!

Case has no supplemental essays. They do ask for a response after being deferred.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also EA deferred and RD waitlisted.

In my kid's case, I don't think it was yield protection at all, though I do think a lack of an in-person visit must've played a role, even if tiny.

They are closely related. If you never demonstrated any interest in this school, they know it's highly unlikely that you will enroll, hence the waitlist to protect yield.

PP here. She participated in multiple webinars, a virtual visit, etc. but we just couldn't swing an in-person visit due to a job loss and lengthy unemployment. I think it was more being very average stats for Case, so maybe a lack of an in-person visit was a tiebreaker. It was a very bad year for our family last year, but she also has some options that are great fits, so we're excited. Congratulations to everyone who got in!

What do you consider to be "average stats" for Case? I highly doubt that's the case if the same kid got into Michigan OOS and CMU. There's another thread here where a daughter got into MIT RD but was rejected from CMU. My own daughter has a 4.0 UW and SAT 1570 and was waitlisted at UMich OOS.

I don’t think the PP is the OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you considered the possibility that Case honestly just didn't WANT your kid? I mean, it's not a non-selective school.

If that's the case, why not just reject? Why string the kid along twice?

It’s what they do. Yield protection at its finest.

You have to understand. Every high stats kid sends an application there, and their yield rate is 20%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The yield management by these schools is truly out of control. I wish they didn't publish/get graded on their yields so they didn't micromanage them so much. I don't want to know how much they spend on the analytics to make these decisions. And how many truly interested kids they lose because they didn't think the kid was interested when they really were.

Though in this case, it sounds like they were right?

I don't know - what's more out of control, students peppering every potential school with applications or colleges understanding that new landscape and trying to manage it appropriately?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also EA deferred and RD waitlisted.

In my kid's case, I don't think it was yield protection at all, though I do think a lack of an in-person visit must've played a role, even if tiny.

They are closely related. If you never demonstrated any interest in this school, they know it's highly unlikely that you will enroll, hence the waitlist to protect yield.

PP here. She participated in multiple webinars, a virtual visit, etc. but we just couldn't swing an in-person visit due to a job loss and lengthy unemployment. I think it was more being very average stats for Case, so maybe a lack of an in-person visit was a tiebreaker. It was a very bad year for our family last year, but she also has some options that are great fits, so we're excited. Congratulations to everyone who got in!

What do you consider to be "average stats" for Case? I highly doubt that's the case if the same kid got into Michigan OOS and CMU. There's another thread here where a daughter got into MIT RD but was rejected from CMU. My own daughter has a 4.0 UW and SAT 1570 and was waitlisted at UMich OOS.

I don’t think the PP is the OP.

That's correct. I'm not the OP and I think my daughter's waitlist is because she wasn't the strongest applicant for Case. I think she had the stats to get in, but not the strongest and maybe the lack of an in-person visit certainly didn't help her case. In other words, no yield protection here and also not helped by perhaps strong enough demonstrated interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TWICE!!!

EA deferred then RD waitlisted.

What the &$(#$(#*&$?????

College admissions are very random unless guaranteed admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my nephew was accepted to MIT and wl at CWRU.

this stuff is sometimes yield protection and sometimes it's the 24 year olds reading these applications. sometimes they like you, sometimes they think "eh"

yep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TWICE!!!

EA deferred then RD waitlisted.

What the &$(#$(#*&$?????

This is exactly the reason why you have to apply to so many schools.

My high stats and excellent ECs kid was deferred during EA and then waitlisted during RD at UVA (which means indirectly rejected). But got 33K merit/year at Case Western and merit scholarship at other schools too but not at Pitt (maybe they assumed he is not coming so why give scholarship).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The yield management by these schools is truly out of control. I wish they didn't publish/get graded on their yields so they didn't micromanage them so much. I don't want to know how much they spend on the analytics to make these decisions. And how many truly interested kids they lose because they didn't think the kid was interested when they really were.

Though in this case, it sounds like they were right?

I don't know - what's more out of control, students peppering every potential school with applications or colleges understanding that new landscape and trying to manage it appropriately?

Students and colleges are caught in a death spiral. High-scoring kids cannot assume they’ll get in anywhere, so they have to apply to at least a dozen schools or there’s a substantial chance they won’t get into any college at all. With so many applicants, colleges can’t risk yielding all the top kids who apply, so they turn them away at random. High school juniors see the increasingly random results and the next year they apply to even more colleges. Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The yield management by these schools is truly out of control. I wish they didn't publish/get graded on their yields so they didn't micromanage them so much. I don't want to know how much they spend on the analytics to make these decisions. And how many truly interested kids they lose because they didn't think the kid was interested when they really were.

Though in this case, it sounds like they were right?

I don't know - what's more out of control, students peppering every potential school with applications or colleges understanding that new landscape and trying to manage it appropriately?

Students and colleges are caught in a death spiral. High-scoring kids cannot assume they’ll get in anywhere, so they have to apply to at least a dozen schools or there’s a substantial chance they won’t get into any college at all. With so many applicants, colleges can’t risk yielding all the top kids who apply, so they turn them away at random. High school juniors see the increasingly random results and the next year they apply to even more colleges. Rinse and repeat.

Which is why demonstrated interest should reasonably be factored.

[Anonymous]

my kid got into CMU and Wash U and chose CWRU over both. Received the top merit aid package had plenty of money left over for graduate school. Graduated from CWRU engineering and has a great job. plans on working for 2/3 years and then can do what ever graduate program. Maybe law or MBA.

[Anonymous]

I just don't understand why the OP is so upset about this. The poster got into CMU and Michigan. Move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand why the OP is so upset about this. The poster got into CMU and Michigan. Move on.

Ego.