Mini Facelift?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having a consult next week. the previous one -tho I am minimal like you-they prefer to do the full it seems like these days.

Probably because it means more money for them, right?

This is OP. My fear with getting a full facelift is ending up looking completely different (not myself). I want something natural looking and was thinking a mini lift might be the answer.

No...I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm in a lot of forums...the claim is that you end up looking more natural with a full facelift. Because there isn't dissonance. They seem to feel like they have more control over the final result, that nothing looks 'pulled'. it often includes fat transfer, eye work, brow lift--but subtle. Not the saran wrap look. That being said I don't feel like I'm mentally ready for a "full" face lift, so I am also interested in an in between.

OP here. Thank you PP for this perspective. I hadn’t thought about the dissonance that it could cause. Ugh. I guess I’ll just have to schedule some consultations and see what the surgeons say. The pictures of I’ve seen of deep plane facelifts, for example, look so “radical”. I was hoping to avoid that. And I wanted less downtime due to my work schedule.

NP that makes sense but I think it's for someone who wants more work. Like there's no dissonance mentioned when someone just wants a nose job! OP just wants light jowl work and maybe neck. To me those are perfect things to single out and stop at. Just like a nose job but I don't want my chin done too, etc. (Some people NEED nose AND chin for balancing)

OP here. Thanks PP. you’re right, I want subtle, not dramatic!

Yes- I think a good surgeon will understand it's just jowls and not send you in for eyes, brows, etc. That would be unnecessary in your case. If they say it's for "natural, no dissonance" they are not a good surgeon.

I went to Austin-Weston for rhinoplasty and they were so so conservative and rightly so. Not every surgeon wants to do the weird beverly hills look.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having a consult next week. the previous one -tho I am minimal like you-they prefer to do the full it seems like these days.

Probably because it means more money for them, right?

This is OP. My fear with getting a full facelift is ending up looking completely different (not myself). I want something natural looking and was thinking a mini lift might be the answer.

No...I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm in a lot of forums...the claim is that you end up looking more natural with a full facelift. Because there isn't dissonance. They seem to feel like they have more control over the final result, that nothing looks 'pulled'. it often includes fat transfer, eye work, brow lift--but subtle. Not the saran wrap look. That being said I don't feel like I'm mentally ready for a "full" face lift, so I am also interested in an in between.

OP here. Thank you PP for this perspective. I hadn’t thought about the dissonance that it could cause. Ugh. I guess I’ll just have to schedule some consultations and see what the surgeons say. The pictures of I’ve seen of deep plane facelifts, for example, look so “radical”. I was hoping to avoid that. And I wanted less downtime due to my work schedule.

NP that makes sense but I think it's for someone who wants more work. Like there's no dissonance mentioned when someone just wants a nose job! OP just wants light jowl work and maybe neck. To me those are perfect things to single out and stop at. Just like a nose job but I don't want my chin done too, etc. (Some people NEED nose AND chin for balancing)

OP here. Thanks PP. you’re right, I want subtle, not dramatic!

Yes- I think a good surgeon will understand it's just jowls and not send you in for eyes, brows, etc. That would be unnecessary in your case. If they say it's for "natural, no dissonance" they are not a good surgeon.

I went to Austin-Weston for rhinoplasty and they were so so conservative and rightly so. Not every surgeon wants to do the weird beverly hills look.

Which surgeon did your surgery?

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Not op but I want neck only. My face as a whole looks good and I don’t mind the mild signs of aging. My neck looks 10 years older than the rest of me. Loose skin at throat and very prominent bands esp when I smile. If anyone has done neck only let me know how it worked out.

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Anonymous wrote:Not op but I want neck only. My face as a whole looks good and I don’t mind the mild signs of aging. My neck looks 10 years older than the rest of me. Loose skin at throat and very prominent bands esp when I smile. If anyone has done neck only let me know how it worked out.

OP here. This is similar to my situation except I have some mild jowling too. That’s why I don’t want a full facelift just something that will refresh my look so to speak.

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I went to Dr. Weston at Austin-Weston for a mini TT and had a great experience. I'll go back to them although he seems to have retired.

I also want my neck waddle and jowling done and also a bit of rhinoplasty. Don't really want my eyes done at this point. If anyone gets a consult for this, please report back!

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I'd just do a consult with 3 surgeons and go from there. It's such a technical question that requires specific, expert advice.

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I’m 54 and I’ve been researching it for two years. You do not want a mini lift. A mini lift is something that might be beneficial for someone who’s in the early 40s, but even then a mini lift is something that looks great for a year or two, and then we’ll revert back to where you are now. The truth of the matter is that a deep plain facelift these days will not change the way you look, it will just bring you back to looking 7 to 12 years younger. After extensive research, I’ve learned that the best time to get a deep plane facelift is between 49 and 56, while your skin still has elasticity, adequate that, and has not. At your age, you will benefit greatly from a deep plain facelift. Of course, older women can have deep plain facelifts as well, but at that point, you are working with skin that has essentially become more like tissue paper, meaning the surgeon can do less because the skin does not have the elasticity. The problem I’m finding, here in the Washington DC area is that I have not been particularly impressed with most of the facial Plastic surgeons. I’ve gotten a lot of God complex/used car, salesman vibes, despite them having good reputation and charging a fortune. I will give you a very important tip. You want a dual board certified plastic surgeon, but for your face, it is more beneficial if the surgeon is board certified in facial Plastic Surgery surgery, not just general Plastic Surgery Surgery. What that means is that they only operate on faces and necks. A lot of fantastic plastic surgeons operate on faces and butts and boobs and stomachs. Considering your face is your face, in my opinion it’s best to stick to an individual who is dual board certified in facial Plastic Surgery because that is their specialty, faces.

Any surgeon who will advise a woman over 50 to get a mini lift is questionable. You’d be happy with the mini lift for a year or two and then your face would fall again and you’ll be starting over. The deplaned facelift method is structurally more complex, and your face isn’t fallen anywhere for a while. You will still age, but they will definitely take 7 to 12 years off your face easily. Take a look at Denise Richards, who was just all over the Internet because she had a deep plain facelift. She looked exactly the same, she just looks refreshed and not tired. That is the current state of deep plain facelifts in this country. It’s terrific.. the days of people looking wind swept and pulled back ended over a decade ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 54 and I’ve been researching it for two years. You do not want a mini lift. A mini lift is something that might be beneficial for someone who’s in the early 40s, but even then a mini lift is something that looks great for a year or two, and then we’ll revert back to where you are now. The truth of the matter is that a deep plain facelift these days will not change the way you look, it will just bring you back to looking 7 to 12 years younger. After extensive research, I’ve learned that the best time to get a deep plane facelift is between 49 and 56, while your skin still has elasticity, adequate that, and has not. At your age, you will benefit greatly from a deep plain facelift. Of course, older women can have deep plain facelifts as well, but at that point, you are working with skin that has essentially become more like tissue paper, meaning the surgeon can do less because the skin does not have the elasticity. The problem I’m finding, here in the Washington DC area is that I have not been particularly impressed with most of the facial Plastic surgeons. I’ve gotten a lot of God complex/used car, salesman vibes, despite them having good reputation and charging a fortune. I will give you a very important tip. You want a dual board certified plastic surgeon, but for your face, it is more beneficial if the surgeon is board certified in facial Plastic Surgery surgery, not just general Plastic Surgery Surgery. What that means is that they only operate on faces and necks. A lot of fantastic plastic surgeons operate on faces and butts and boobs and stomachs. Considering your face is your face, in my opinion it’s best to stick to an individual who is dual board certified in facial Plastic Surgery because that is their specialty, faces.

Any surgeon who will advise a woman over 50 to get a mini lift is questionable. You’d be happy with the mini lift for a year or two and then your face would fall again and you’ll be starting over. The deplaned facelift method is structurally more complex, and your face isn’t fallen anywhere for a while. You will still age, but they will definitely take 7 to 12 years off your face easily. Take a look at Denise Richards, who was just all over the Internet because she had a deep plain facelift. She looked exactly the same, she just looks refreshed and not tired. That is the current state of deep plain facelifts in this country. It’s terrific.. the days of people looking wind swept and pulled back ended over a decade ago.

NP. Great post! I follow Dr. Nayak on FB and am just blown away by his results. If only I had $250,000 to afford him! I wish there was someone in the DC area who was just as excellent and much, much less expensive.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 54 and I’ve been researching it for two years. You do not want a mini lift. A mini lift is something that might be beneficial for someone who’s in the early 40s, but even then a mini lift is something that looks great for a year or two, and then we’ll revert back to where you are now. The truth of the matter is that a deep plain facelift these days will not change the way you look, it will just bring you back to looking 7 to 12 years younger. After extensive research, I’ve learned that the best time to get a deep plane facelift is between 49 and 56, while your skin still has elasticity, adequate that, and has not. At your age, you will benefit greatly from a deep plain facelift. Of course, older women can have deep plain facelifts as well, but at that point, you are working with skin that has essentially become more like tissue paper, meaning the surgeon can do less because the skin does not have the elasticity. The problem I’m finding, here in the Washington DC area is that I have not been particularly impressed with most of the facial Plastic surgeons. I’ve gotten a lot of God complex/used car, salesman vibes, despite them having good reputation and charging a fortune. I will give you a very important tip. You want a dual board certified plastic surgeon, but for your face, it is more beneficial if the surgeon is board certified in facial Plastic Surgery surgery, not just general Plastic Surgery Surgery. What that means is that they only operate on faces and necks. A lot of fantastic plastic surgeons operate on faces and butts and boobs and stomachs. Considering your face is your face, in my opinion it’s best to stick to an individual who is dual board certified in facial Plastic Surgery because that is their specialty, faces.

Any surgeon who will advise a woman over 50 to get a mini lift is questionable. You’d be happy with the mini lift for a year or two and then your face would fall again and you’ll be starting over. The deplaned facelift method is structurally more complex, and your face isn’t fallen anywhere for a while. You will still age, but they will definitely take 7 to 12 years off your face easily. Take a look at Denise Richards, who was just all over the Internet because she had a deep plain facelift. She looked exactly the same, she just looks refreshed and not tired. That is the current state of deep plain facelifts in this country. It’s terrific.. the days of people looking wind swept and pulled back ended over a decade ago.

How much will you have to pay for a deep plane facelift? Not a celebrity surgeon.

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I would do this in South Korea. Not joking. Much better prices and the work and follow up care will blow you away. We’ve been told US medical care is the ‘best’. It is not. Go on Reddit and join an SK plastic surgery forum

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^ and agree with the above, a deep plane is what you need.

One explanation I’ll give for one of the reasons SK is better- they regularly and historically have done ‘larger’ facial surgeries - ‘contouring’ is very common there and involves reducing cheekbones and chin. They are much better at considering overall facial anatomy and movement. Their overall surgical skills are far better than their American cohorts.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do this in South Korea. Not joking. Much better prices and the work and follow up care will blow you away. We’ve been told US medical care is the ‘best’. It is not. Go on Reddit and join an SK plastic surgery forum

How are they going to provide adequate follow up care (esp if some issues arise post op) when you're back in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having a consult next week. the previous one -tho I am minimal like you-they prefer to do the full it seems like these days.

Probably because it means more money for them, right?

This is OP. My fear with getting a full facelift is ending up looking completely different (not myself). I want something natural looking and was thinking a mini lift might be the answer.

No...I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm in a lot of forums...the claim is that you end up looking more natural with a full facelift. Because there isn't dissonance. They seem to feel like they have more control over the final result, that nothing looks 'pulled'. it often includes fat transfer, eye work, brow lift--but subtle. Not the saran wrap look. That being said I don't feel like I'm mentally ready for a "full" face lift, so I am also interested in an in between.

OP here. Thank you PP for this perspective. I hadn’t thought about the dissonance that it could cause. Ugh. I guess I’ll just have to schedule some consultations and see what the surgeons say. The pictures of I’ve seen of deep plane facelifts, for example, look so “radical”. I was hoping to avoid that. And I wanted less downtime due to my work schedule.

NP that makes sense but I think it's for someone who wants more work. Like there's no dissonance mentioned when someone just wants a nose job! OP just wants light jowl work and maybe neck. To me those are perfect things to single out and stop at. Just like a nose job but I don't want my chin done too, etc. (Some people NEED nose AND chin for balancing)

Im the pp who answered before .i consulted on this and you'd be surprised that a necklift and some jowl is already half your face, so they just encourage you to look at the whole thing. But I'm with OP not ready.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 54 and I’ve been researching it for two years. You do not want a mini lift. A mini lift is something that might be beneficial for someone who’s in the early 40s, but even then a mini lift is something that looks great for a year or two, and then we’ll revert back to where you are now. The truth of the matter is that a deep plain facelift these days will not change the way you look, it will just bring you back to looking 7 to 12 years younger. After extensive research, I’ve learned that the best time to get a deep plane facelift is between 49 and 56, while your skin still has elasticity, adequate that, and has not. At your age, you will benefit greatly from a deep plain facelift. Of course, older women can have deep plain facelifts as well, but at that point, you are working with skin that has essentially become more like tissue paper, meaning the surgeon can do less because the skin does not have the elasticity. The problem I’m finding, here in the Washington DC area is that I have not been particularly impressed with most of the facial Plastic surgeons. I’ve gotten a lot of God complex/used car, salesman vibes, despite them having good reputation and charging a fortune. I will give you a very important tip. You want a dual board certified plastic surgeon, but for your face, it is more beneficial if the surgeon is board certified in facial Plastic Surgery surgery, not just general Plastic Surgery Surgery. What that means is that they only operate on faces and necks. A lot of fantastic plastic surgeons operate on faces and butts and boobs and stomachs. Considering your face is your face, in my opinion it’s best to stick to an individual who is dual board certified in facial Plastic Surgery because that is their specialty, faces.

Any surgeon who will advise a woman over 50 to get a mini lift is questionable. You’d be happy with the mini lift for a year or two and then your face would fall again and you’ll be starting over. The deplaned facelift method is structurally more complex, and your face isn’t fallen anywhere for a while. You will still age, but they will definitely take 7 to 12 years off your face easily. Take a look at Denise Richards, who was just all over the Internet because she had a deep plain facelift. She looked exactly the same, she just looks refreshed and not tired. That is the current state of deep plain facelifts in this country. It’s terrific.. the days of people looking wind swept and pulled back ended over a decade ago.

Im.looking in DC too. Ruff, landford, cabin... Who have you talked with?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 54 and I’ve been researching it for two years. You do not want a mini lift. A mini lift is something that might be beneficial for someone who’s in the early 40s, but even then a mini lift is something that looks great for a year or two, and then we’ll revert back to where you are now. The truth of the matter is that a deep plain facelift these days will not change the way you look, it will just bring you back to looking 7 to 12 years younger. After extensive research, I’ve learned that the best time to get a deep plane facelift is between 49 and 56, while your skin still has elasticity, adequate that, and has not. At your age, you will benefit greatly from a deep plain facelift. Of course, older women can have deep plain facelifts as well, but at that point, you are working with skin that has essentially become more like tissue paper, meaning the surgeon can do less because the skin does not have the elasticity. The problem I’m finding, here in the Washington DC area is that I have not been particularly impressed with most of the facial Plastic surgeons. I’ve gotten a lot of God complex/used car, salesman vibes, despite them having good reputation and charging a fortune. I will give you a very important tip. You want a dual board certified plastic surgeon, but for your face, it is more beneficial if the surgeon is board certified in facial Plastic Surgery surgery, not just general Plastic Surgery Surgery. What that means is that they only operate on faces and necks. A lot of fantastic plastic surgeons operate on faces and butts and boobs and stomachs. Considering your face is your face, in my opinion it’s best to stick to an individual who is dual board certified in facial Plastic Surgery because that is their specialty, faces.

Any surgeon who will advise a woman over 50 to get a mini lift is questionable. You’d be happy with the mini lift for a year or two and then your face would fall again and you’ll be starting over. The deplaned facelift method is structurally more complex, and your face isn’t fallen anywhere for a while. You will still age, but they will definitely take 7 to 12 years off your face easily. Take a look at Denise Richards, who was just all over the Internet because she had a deep plain facelift. She looked exactly the same, she just looks refreshed and not tired. That is the current state of deep plain facelifts in this country. It’s terrific.. the days of people looking wind swept and pulled back ended over a decade ago.

NP. Great post! I follow Dr. Nayak on FB and am just blown away by his results. If only I had $250,000 to afford him! I wish there was someone in the DC area who was just as excellent and much, much less expensive.

Elizabeth Chance in VA charges $150k, I think. Brad Karolak in NJ is also less expensive.