Are all FCPS high schools requiring incoming freshmen to take a year of CTE next year?

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A year immersed in a Great Books curriculum would better serve them.

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I just wish FCPS would have more semester courses. Then kids could take more courses.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

More than a few decades- I was in middle school in the 1970’s and boys and girls had to take a quarter of woodworking (I’m still using my lamp) , metal (still using my hanging plant hook), cooking, and sewing (my bunny bit the dust a long time ago).

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish FCPS would have more semester courses. Then kids could take more courses.

Semester courses are considered easier and not rigorous. They learn more in year long courses.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish FCPS would have more semester courses. Then kids could take more courses.

Semester courses are considered easier and not rigorous. They learn more in year long courses.

Except Multivariable Calculus and Linear Algebra are both semester classes. Wouldn’t call them easy.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

Nah, I just forgot you could take music or art as an elective, too.

As a practical matter, no boys took home economics and no girls took shop back then, so if you weren’t musical or artistic (and I wasn’t) you were channeled into home ec or shop based on your gender.

I think it’s good that kids have more electives now.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

Nah, I just forgot you could take music or art as an elective, too.

As a practical matter, no boys took home economics and no girls took shop back then, so if you weren’t musical or artistic (and I wasn’t) you were channeled into home ec or shop based on your gender.

I think it’s good that kids have more electives now.

They did at my school. In 7th grade we all had a quarter of wood, metal, sewing, and cooking. We also had music and art.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

Nah, I just forgot you could take music or art as an elective, too.

As a practical matter, no boys took home economics and no girls took shop back then, so if you weren’t musical or artistic (and I wasn’t) you were channeled into home ec or shop based on your gender.

I think it’s good that kids have more electives now.

Just stop. It might have been unusual for boys to take home economics or girls to take shopping, but that doesn't mean "no boys" or "no girls" took those classes.

My dad graduated from high school in 1963. He and his best friends all took home economics because they thought it would be an easy way to meet girls.

My mom graduated from high school in 1970. She and her sisters all took wood shop, as did a couple of my mom's (female) friends.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

Nah, I just forgot you could take music or art as an elective, too.

As a practical matter, no boys took home economics and no girls took shop back then, so if you weren’t musical or artistic (and I wasn’t) you were channeled into home ec or shop based on your gender.

I think it’s good that kids have more electives now.

Just stop. It might have been unusual for boys to take home economics or girls to take shop, but that doesn't mean "no boys" or "no girls" took those classes.

My dad graduated from high school in 1963. He and his best friends all took home economics because they thought it would be an easy way to meet girls.

My mom graduated from high school in 1970. She and her sisters all took wood shop, as did a couple of my mom's (female) friends.

*shop

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

Nah, I just forgot you could take music or art as an elective, too.

As a practical matter, no boys took home economics and no girls took shop back then, so if you weren’t musical or artistic (and I wasn’t) you were channeled into home ec or shop based on your gender.

I think it’s good that kids have more electives now.

Just stop. It might have been unusual for boys to take home economics or girls to take shopping, but that doesn't mean "no boys" or "no girls" took those classes.

My dad graduated from high school in 1963. He and his best friends all took home economics because they thought it would be an easy way to meet girls.

My mom graduated from high school in 1970. She and her sisters all took wood shop, as did a couple of my mom's (female) friends.

What in the hell is wrong with you? I am describing my experience in FCPS decades ago. There were no boys in my home ex class and no girls in my brother’s shop class. None. And guidance counselors automatically put you in those classes if you didn’t take an art or music elective.

I am not claiming this was a universal experience for everyone in FCPS, much less in other parts of the country. Really, the only opinion I’ve expressed is that it’s good kids have more elective choices now and aren’t steered into certain electives based on their gender.

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Anonymous wrote:My middle school as a kid required every kid take a semester of wood shop, metal shop, home ec cooking, home ec sewing, keyboard, guitar, mechanical drawing, and art. It exposed all the students to some CTE and helped some kids make the choice to apply to the votech school in the region instead of staying at the traditional HS. Everyone else learned how to handle some basic power tools and learn some basic life skills. I thought it was a good idea.

My education was similar although we were exposed at even younger ages. We had wood shop in elementary school. We had home economics, typing, and art required in middle school. I also grew up in an area with an amazing vocational program. FCPS is seriously lacking here.

Those courses are available for those interested in taking them and I’m quite happy FCPS no longer requires boys to take shop (“industrial arts”) and girls to take home economics, as was the case decades ago.

So different now, genuinely curious- Decades could be 20, but you’re not saying in 2006 FCPS required girls to take home ec and boys shop or even 30 years ago in 1996??? You mean stereotypical 1950s right?

I was referring to the 1970s and on reflection you could still take art or music rather than shop or home economics as a semester elective but the number of electives was far smaller than it is now and most boys took shop and most girls home economics. There weren’t girls in shop classes or boys in home economics classes at the time.

So you just made it up that boys were “required” to take shop and girls were “required” to take home ec?! Wow.

Nah, I just forgot you could take music or art as an elective, too.

As a practical matter, no boys took home economics and no girls took shop back then, so if you weren’t musical or artistic (and I wasn’t) you were channeled into home ec or shop based on your gender.

I think it’s good that kids have more electives now.

Yes you did make it up because they were not required at all to take one or the other.