Getting released from club?
![[Post New]](/jforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif){kind=icon}
Anonymous
Then they will blackball you. |
Anonymous
What AI says about reporting a violation: To report a violation of the USA Volleyball (USAV) Coaches Code of Ethics and Conduct, file a grievance through your local Region Office or via email to the USAV General Counsel (rachael.stafford@usav.org) and the USAV Chair of Ethics and Eligibility (legal@usav.org). For sexual, physical, or emotional abuse, report immediately to the U.S. Center for SafeSport. How to File a Complaint/Grievance Identify the Venue: Violations should generally be reported to the specific Region Office where the individual is located. File a Formal Complaint: Use the Grievance Form available on the USAV website, or email the USAV General Counsel and Chair of Ethics and Eligibility. SafeSport Violations: If the complaint involves sexual misconduct, physical, or emotional abuse, it must be reported to the U.S. Center for SafeSport. Required Information: The complaint should include details about the incident, and the person filing is referred to as the Petitioner. Confidentiality: Reports to the SafeSport portal can be made confidentially or anonymously. Coaches are expected to uphold integrity, avoid abuse or exploitation, and foster a safe environment. Prohibited conduct includes: Physical, verbal, or emotional harassment. Sexual misconduct or abuse. Exploitative coercion of athletes. Hazing or inappropriate physical contact. Retaliation against individuals who file complaints in good faith is prohibited and may result in further disciplinary action. |
Anonymous
|
I'm going through this now. The club is committing numerous violations, but the owner doesn't seem bothered.
I'm hesitant to bring anything forth because I'm not sure how vigorously the USVA will prosecute the claim. |
Anonymous
This is a shame - I'm sorry to hear that. I do think USAV (or SafeSport, depending on the situation) would investigate and take a credible report seriously. I found this article about a scenario in a different USAV region. I'm sure there are other examples, but I thought this one was useful to see because it outlined the response. https://tallahasseereports.com/2023/05/23/leon-high-school-coach-under-investigation-by-florida-region-of-usa-volleyball/ |
Anonymous
You told the club director they are committing violations and they acted unbothered? Wow, this is surprising. What kind of violations, can you say? |
Anonymous
|
It’s really really hard to get action from USAV, SafeSport or the region unless it’s egregious. You’re better to walk away and cut your losses unless it is truly egregious or illegal, or bide your time through the remainder of the season.
Unless said club has a reputation for what is happening, directors and coaches talk. Even the ones who didn’t really like each other. |
Anonymous
I've heard the same thing - unless the behavior is actually illegal (not just against the USAV Code of Conduct), CHRVA and USAV don't want the hassle of dealing with it. |
Anonymous
How do you hold folks accountable for what they are doing if CHRVA and USAV won’t do anything? How do you develop a reputation for doing something if no one reports it? And why would club directors go out of their way to trash talk folks? Aren’t they busy enough?? It seems like a self perpetuating cycle of dysfunction. And then as parents we get mad for having to pay for it or going into situations without knowing. |
Anonymous
There is quite a bit of chatter about various clubs on this threads. Based on my experience, there is even more chatter in tournaments and during clinics / leagues. If you are just a bit social, you can connect with other parents who are very willing to share their experience, be it positive or negative. Once you are around the block for one year or two, you know a lot about the clubs where you sign up for clinics / leagues / camps. You realize how small the volleyball world is because you will see the same players / parents pretty much everywhere. Some parents are simply dropping off, then picking up and avoid contact (probably busy schedules or multiple kids to take care of). But there are enough parents who hang around and you can chat with. I feel like parents who are new to club volleyball have it the hardest. I was one of them and I was not aware of these threads, so it was very difficult to find reliable information. Don't get me wrong, the information here is not always reliable, but at least you learn what red flags to look for. Every single club website tries to paint a rosy picture of themselves and you don't know which one boasts for a good versus no reason. I feel like the transition to club volleyball (plus the first year of club) is the most difficult. It took me longer than that to become wiser. I feel like I was still relatively clueless in the second year of club volleyball as well, even though I had one year under my belt. I may be still clueless right now and not know it, I will let you know next year. |
Anonymous
Yes, you've captured my frustration with this thread. Why will nobody, whether OP or any of the follow-on posters, say what violations we're even talking about? On one side of the spectrum, there are real violations, which every club director I have heard of would take incredibly seriously because they would not want them to happen at their club and tarnish their reputation. I do not believe at all that there are any club directors who would not hear this out. On the far end of the spectrum, there are parent complaints framed as a sort of violation, like "the coaches do not play everyone" (or, more specifically, their child enough) or "the coaches yelled at the players." Speaking generally, you may not like those things, but neither of them constitutes a violation. If you are a parent and you complain about either of these, you will probably find your kid playing for a different club next year. In the middle, there is a gray area. Say the kind of violation you think might be happening, and we can tell you whether it should be reported. The day after your team's season ends, why not say here which clubs are permitting what kinds of lousy behavior? If you are witnessing lousy behavior, I assume you would not let your kid back into that environment again, so there is no longer a bridge to burn, right? I disagree with the previous poster who says parents from opposing teams talk at tournaments. This does not really seem to happen in my experience. So speaking in vague terms in this thread really isn't making any point about any club, and we still have no clarity on whether real violations are even happening anywhere. |
Anonymous
Just because parents from opposing teams don't talk to you, it doesn't mean that they don't ever talk. After several seasons, I know parents in most of the local teams. I meet them either during clinics, leagues, or tryouts. Players from our former teams are currently in other teams that we often meet in tournaments. Guess what? We talk about how things are going and we hear things about other clubs. I cannot answer the question about violations because I am not the OP. I didn't hear anything that would raise to the level of a violation, but it doesn't mean that parents don't talk at tournaments. |
Anonymous
This is insanely naive. |
Anonymous
|
Then call out the violations that are happening that directors are turning a blind eye to!!
Nobody has shared even one example of a violation that is happening that someone is ignoring. This thread is filled with conjecture about what would or would not happen in theoretical violations. How many real violations are happening that all of you have reported with no action, such that you are certain club directors would ignore them? If you think this is happening, why are you allowing your child to play for any club where directors do not care about violations? |