Senator Kagan on Wootton: "I am not supporting the City of Rockville's proposal"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

The Rockville proposal is that Crown is a holding school as MCPS rebuilds Wootton and Magruder.

So, option H is basically in place for the first 5 years (Wootton temporarily moves into Crown, Wootton gets rebuilt).

Then Wootton moves back to the current location, Magruder kids come in and the local Crown kids stay in Crown. Magruder gets rebuilt and then a boundary study is done to move a permanent student body into Crown.

It's acceding to the reality that Wootton's building is in such poor repair with no funding to fix it that the kids will need to be in Crown by 2027 and trying to tie MCPS' hands to make it a temporary move.

I'm doubtful it'll be considered because MCPS will want the flexibility of moving Wootton and then seeing the budgetary and enrollment landscape before making a decision.

It's not JUST that it function as a holding school, which is an worth debating and certainly has precedent since MCPS just did that with Woodward and Northwood.

They're proposing a HYBRID solution where it is part-holding school and part-local school. Which to my knowledge, has never been done and sounds like a logistical nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

The Rockville proposal is that Crown is a holding school as MCPS rebuilds Wootton and Magruder.

So, option H is basically in place for the first 5 years (Wootton temporarily moves into Crown, Wootton gets rebuilt).

Then Wootton moves back to the current location, Magruder kids come in and the local Crown kids stay in Crown. Magruder gets rebuilt and then a boundary study is done to move a permanent student body into Crown.

It's acceding to the reality that Wootton's building is in such poor repair with no funding to fix it that the kids will need to be in Crown by 2027 and trying to tie MCPS' hands to make it a temporary move.

I'm doubtful it'll be considered because MCPS will want the flexibility of moving Wootton and then seeing the budgetary and enrollment landscape before making a decision.

Diff perspective. While dual status (both holding and permanent school) might sound complex, I don't think it will be more complex than what MCPS is proposing to do with the six-region model, which is gonna be awful.

In some ways a dual status could be modeled after something like the current magnet HSs that bus both local students and the students from outside the boundary who get imported in. But it will be a lot simpler because in any given year, the students outside the boundary are from only one cluster anyway, and not cross county/regions.


It's not JUST that it function as a holding school, which is an worth debating and certainly has precedent since MCPS just did that with Woodward and Northwood.

They're proposing a HYBRID solution where it is part-holding school and part-local school. Which to my knowledge, has never been done and sounds like a logistical nightmare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

The Rockville proposal is that Crown is a holding school as MCPS rebuilds Wootton and Magruder.

So, option H is basically in place for the first 5 years (Wootton temporarily moves into Crown, Wootton gets rebuilt).

Then Wootton moves back to the current location, Magruder kids come in and the local Crown kids stay in Crown. Magruder gets rebuilt and then a boundary study is done to move a permanent student body into Crown.

It's acceding to the reality that Wootton's building is in such poor repair with no funding to fix it that the kids will need to be in Crown by 2027 and trying to tie MCPS' hands to make it a temporary move.

I'm doubtful it'll be considered because MCPS will want the flexibility of moving Wootton and then seeing the budgetary and enrollment landscape before making a decision.

We do not need another HS given the declining enrollment.

Wootton is falling a part.
Crown is brand new and almost done building.

In the hybrid model, after all the HS have eventually been repaired, and enrollment has declined, all of the neighboring HS will be way under capacity. That is a waste of taxpayer money. MCPS, and the county (and the Senator) should be better stewards of our tax dollars and not waste it because some parents don't want their kids to take a bus to a brand new HS.

Politicians are very shortsighted to get votes. But, in the long term, having another HS with declining enrollment is wasting taxpayer money in a county that already has high tax rates and is losing more and more revenue each year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

MCPS admin pretending to be parent. Essie remembers when Roland used that trick, but remember he got caught!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

MCPS admin pretending to be parent. Essie remembers when Roland used that trick, but remember he got caught!

Correct.

And I hope Essie and her cronies get caught too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

Kagan is entitled to her opinion and to propose and lobby for laws in Legislature, but she'd still have to convince half the Legislature to get in the middle of very local disagreement that doesn't have a significant impact on state budget or state issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

Kagan is entitled to her opinion and to propose and lobby for laws in Legislature, but she'd still have to convince half the Legislature to get in the middle of very local disagreement that doesn't have a significant impact on state budget or state issues.

Agreed. So I guess what you're saying is Taylor did the calculation on punching down on her openly wouldn't cost him anything in the near term and so he felt justified in doing it. And you agree with him.

I still thank that was the wrong move as it influences other people who are watching him do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

Kagan is entitled to her opinion and to propose and lobby for laws in Legislature, but she'd still have to convince half the Legislature to get in the middle of very local disagreement that doesn't have a significant impact on state budget or state issues.

Kagan can also request a State audit of MCPS.

Oops

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

The Rockville proposal is that Crown is a holding school as MCPS rebuilds Wootton and Magruder.

So, option H is basically in place for the first 5 years (Wootton temporarily moves into Crown, Wootton gets rebuilt).

Then Wootton moves back to the current location, Magruder kids come in and the local Crown kids stay in Crown. Magruder gets rebuilt and then a boundary study is done to move a permanent student body into Crown.

It's acceding to the reality that Wootton's building is in such poor repair with no funding to fix it that the kids will need to be in Crown by 2027 and trying to tie MCPS' hands to make it a temporary move.

I'm doubtful it'll be considered because MCPS will want the flexibility of moving Wootton and then seeing the budgetary and enrollment landscape before making a decision.

Where is the money to fund the rebuild of Wootton? So far all we have heard is how emergency funds will magically appear yet nothing has materialized. The current base assumption is it’ll be another decade as Wootton isn’t even on the CIP.

Notice how Rockville politicians immediately ran away as soon as money started being discussed? Even Adam said he wasn’t committing Rockville to pay for it. Rightfully so because he can’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

The Rockville proposal is that Crown is a holding school as MCPS rebuilds Wootton and Magruder.

So, option H is basically in place for the first 5 years (Wootton temporarily moves into Crown, Wootton gets rebuilt).

Then Wootton moves back to the current location, Magruder kids come in and the local Crown kids stay in Crown. Magruder gets rebuilt and then a boundary study is done to move a permanent student body into Crown.

It's acceding to the reality that Wootton's building is in such poor repair with no funding to fix it that the kids will need to be in Crown by 2027 and trying to tie MCPS' hands to make it a temporary move.

I'm doubtful it'll be considered because MCPS will want the flexibility of moving Wootton and then seeing the budgetary and enrollment landscape before making a decision.

Where is the money to fund the rebuild of Wootton? So far all we have heard is how emergency funds will magically appear yet nothing has materialized. The current base assumption is it’ll be another decade as Wootton isn’t even on the CIP.

Notice how Rockville politicians immediately ran away as soon as money started being discussed? Even Adam said he wasn’t committing Rockville to pay for it. Rightfully so because he can’t.

So other HSs on the CIP are OK to be placed at Wootton building while rennovating their facilities? I believe Damascus or MaGruder stand with Wootton in opposing option H for this valid concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

what? As I said, I'm a parent, and I live in the real world. A senator does not have the decision making power regarding school boundaries. I did not say that parents or the community don't have the right to provide feedback.

This is freakin' ridiculous, to expect a senator, that should be dealing with national and state wide issues, to influence a school boundary.

I think you are not able to think straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

It doesn't matter. Senators have no say in it.

She was clear the legislature funds a significant amount of MCPS.

But they have no say in how boundaries are drawn, and she has no clue what's going on. This is a local matter.

This has to be Essie. This reeks of her narrow, dig-in-your-heels attitude. You fail to understand the landscape if you're limiting the impact and influence of the politics that shape MCPS to just the school board and superintendent.

? No. I'm a parent. Why do some posters assume that all parents are against H, and only MCPS is for H? You live in a bubble. Sorry to burst it.

I know there are parents for and against H.

It was the narrowing of influence and impact, and insisting WHO had decision making power that reeked of Essie, who routinely dismisses and rejects anyone other than MCPS influencing and impacting the system's decision making.

And frankly, I don't see why a parent would be focused on that. So either you're Essie or another staffer who wants to insist in MCPS supremacy, over community or other stakeholder feedback.

MCPS admin pretending to be parent. Essie remembers when Roland used that trick, but remember he got caught!

I don't even know who is Essie is. You people are truly living in a bubble. I live in the RM cluster in Rockville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the City of Rockville's proposal?

Why does a Senator's support matter for a local decision?

The Rockville proposal is that Crown is a holding school as MCPS rebuilds Wootton and Magruder.

So, option H is basically in place for the first 5 years (Wootton temporarily moves into Crown, Wootton gets rebuilt).

Then Wootton moves back to the current location, Magruder kids come in and the local Crown kids stay in Crown. Magruder gets rebuilt and then a boundary study is done to move a permanent student body into Crown.

It's acceding to the reality that Wootton's building is in such poor repair with no funding to fix it that the kids will need to be in Crown by 2027 and trying to tie MCPS' hands to make it a temporary move.

I'm doubtful it'll be considered because MCPS will want the flexibility of moving Wootton and then seeing the budgetary and enrollment landscape before making a decision.

Where is the money to fund the rebuild of Wootton? So far all we have heard is how emergency funds will magically appear yet nothing has materialized. The current base assumption is it’ll be another decade as Wootton isn’t even on the CIP.

Notice how Rockville politicians immediately ran away as soon as money started being discussed? Even Adam said he wasn’t committing Rockville to pay for it. Rightfully so because he can’t.

So other HSs on the CIP are OK to be placed at Wootton building while rennovating their facilities? I believe Damascus or MaGruder stand with Wootton in opposing option H for this valid concern.

Great make sure you buy a house in the Magruder neighborhood so you can send your precious kids to Wootton during the renovations. Win / win.