Have any FCPS schools ever lost accreditation? What happens if they do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Really? So, it would be a complete surprise if one were to fall into this category?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Really? So, it would be a complete surprise if one were to fall into this category?

DP. Nothing in FCPS involving a high school has come close to what happened in the early 2010s when T C Williams (now Alexandria City) was declared a "persistently lowest-achieving" school by the DOE under the Obama Administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Really? So, it would be a complete surprise if one were to fall into this category?

Yes it would be a huge blow to FCPS if that were to ever happen, especially at the MS/HS level. But FCPS would not be surprised by it - it wouldn’t happen out of the clear blue. There would be years of lead up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At one point in past Justice High School lost accreditation; don't know what supports or options were offered at that time though. We remember being quite concerned as it was our zoned HS.

I don’t believe this is true. There may have been a point where it was conditionally accredited or accredited with a warning, but it remained accredited. It wasn’t like at Dogwood, mentioned earlier, where there was a period in which students zoned for the school had an automatic right to transfer to another school.

Thank you for clarification; sorry if I got that wrong, it was enough to worry us at the time. -OP here.

You may be a PP, but you are not the OP of this thread.—OP

Right! My bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Actually we have several elementary schools that are dangerously close to losing accreditation.

[Anonymous]

names?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:names?

you can look at the list posted several times on this site. There are title one schools that are struggling. It's been posted on two different threads-check it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Actually we have several elementary schools that are dangerously close to losing accreditation.

Just because schools are Title 1 and in “needs intensive support” doesn’t mean they are really close to losing accreditation. If years-long troubled Jefferson-Houston in Alexandria can squeak by with “conditionally” year after year, everything in FCPS should be perfectly fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Actually we have several elementary schools that are dangerously close to losing accreditation.

Just because schools are Title 1 and in “needs intensive support” doesn’t mean they are really close to losing accreditation. If years-long troubled Jefferson-Houston in Alexandria can squeak by with “conditionally” year after year, everything in FCPS should be perfectly fine.

+1. Particularly with Democrats calling the shots in Richmond. For better or worse, accreditation is now seen as a political exercise where Republicans will look to find ways to strip public schools of accreditation to promote vouchers and Democrats will do anything to keep schools accredited to appease teachers’ unions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

The state standards for accreditation are not particularly tough. I don’t see any FCPS schools falling all the way to losing accreditation.

Our elementary school was in jeopardy about 7 years ago. FCPS pre-emptively made a few moves including sending the principal to another school.

I remember a lot of discussion on here in 2014-2015ish about Lewis (then Lee) and how FCPS was legitimately worried that it could lose accreditation. They would have rather closed it than have a HS that wasn’t fully accredited. There were tentative plans in place for where to move the elementary feeders.

It would be pretty big news if a school was legitimately close to losing accreditation - it wouldn’t happen overnight. Again, definitely not worried about anything in FCPS right now.

Actually we have several elementary schools that are dangerously close to losing accreditation.

Just because schools are Title 1 and in “needs intensive support” doesn’t mean they are really close to losing accreditation. If years-long troubled Jefferson-Houston in Alexandria can squeak by with “conditionally” year after year, everything in FCPS should be perfectly fine.

+1. Particularly with Democrats calling the shots in Richmond. For better or worse, accreditation is now seen as a political exercise where Republicans will look to find ways to strip public schools of accreditation to promote vouchers and Democrats will do anything to keep schools accredited to appease teachers’ unions.

+1 you’re not going to find anything in the public schools losing accreditation anytime soon. Charter schools possibly. It’s a political exercise.

[Anonymous]

I used to teach at Whitman MS. We routinely had veteran FCPS teachers transfer to our school and quit 3 months in due to student behavior , but mostly administration (This was Craig Herring era) telling us to just “read a classroom management book” while we had kids screaming, fighting, etc in class. I had a student who was sexually assaulted and repeatedly sexually harassed by a male student in her gym class. I immediately went with her to file a report and request that the offender be removed from her class. It took MONTHS of my trying to follow up and help this poor girl. Anyway, it wasn’t until this girls family marched into the principals office and aid they would take this to the media and sue that they finally took the male out of her class.

I say all this because this is the type of environment that demoralizes students and teachers and distracts from actual learning.


We were ALWAYS in danger of losing our accreditation. There were MANY years where we were the ONLY MS “accredited w / warning.”
I left that place a while ago, but the very few coworkers I had who are still there say it has just gotten worse. Accreditation still a clusterf**

[Anonymous]

We were in danger of losing our accreditation all 4 years I was at this particular MS. I don’t know if they ever got out of the bubble or if they are accredited now.

However, what I DO remember is that our terrible principal would CONSTANTLY tell the entire school that if we lost accreditation, he (the very ineffective principal who was forced to retire early due to a student beating up another kid in a violent bus incident after I left)would fire all of us and he would be in charge of hiring/rehiring new staff for his improved school…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

This is how/why they picked AAP center schools at the ES level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will move heaven and earth to avoid a not fully accredited school. As a PP mentioned if a school slips out of accreditation, people who are zoned for that school have the automatic option to attend elsewhere. It creates potential overcrowding situations at the receiving schools. And the optics are absolutely terrible.

This is how/why they picked AAP center schools at the ES level.

NP. Is this actually true? I believe it but didn't know that.