Shout out to the young men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My teen daughter shoveled neighborhood driveways this week, too!

+1. Be a good little feminist, OP!

Somehow I don’t think the OP is all about valuing female labor force participation.

[Anonymous]

That’s great! Boys need to shovel, take out the trash, help neighbors. Gets them off video games and feeling good about themselves. As a woman who was a former girl right before the wave of “girls are awesome and can do anything”, I get the need to not exclude girls and the desire to make things equal. But as the mom of both a son and a daughter, I see how these efforts have also swung so far in the other direction that revenge and restitution seems to be the point. This doesn’t have to be a zero-sum game and we can absolutely celebrate our sons for stepping up without it automatically meaning we’re excluding our daughters.

[Anonymous]

I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Sigh. We’re just trying to celebrate our sons. For once in their young lives, we’re trying to celebrate them. These kids weren’t the ones who made life miserable for women all those years ago. They just need something to help them feel good about being a boy. Why is this so hard for people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What area?

Clarksburg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is meaningless in the face of rising and rampant toxic masculinity in America.

I posted after reading the other mega snow thread on why aren't kids shoveling.

There are hundreds of posts from people who were shoveled out by young men and boys from the neighborhood, and hundreds of posts from parents whose sons are out shoveling and who shoveled multiple days, often for free.

There were multiple posts from moms of girls explaining why their daughters are not out shoveling, citing things like studying, babysitting, working indoor jobs and giving music lessons instead. There were posts from parents saying their sons were shoveling and daughter were doing other things. Some girls are shoveling, but it is rare and those girls are very rare (yay them) not at all common.

I counted 2 posters in that other thread who said their daughters were out shoveling for neighbors, and a couple saying that their girls were shoveling their own cars/driveways but not out in the neighborhood.

Our community facebook and next door pages of thousands of people show the exact same thing as that complaint thread. It is teen boys and young men, almost without exception, who are the ones stepping up to help their neighbors clear this ice mess.

The boys and young men as a group really had a moment in this storm, providing an incredible service to their community in the face of some truly backbreaking work that no one wanted to do.

Our community needs to be very appreciative to our young men for what they did this week to help their neighbors.

It is really sad that you need to cut down girls to build up boys. Do better. Just praise the boys you actually have seen in person and stop with your broad generalizations based off of social media. Are you a f-in adult, for crying out loud????? You are as bad as the teenagers thinking social media is reality. FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Agreed. OP I know you meant well, and all the young men you saw stepping up should be celebrated. But as you can see, many of us have seen examples of girls, young women and women stepping up too. So maybe celebrate EVERYONE who stepped up, and don't make gendered assumptions that cancel out the good deeds (and as you can see there were many) that girls and women did too in this snowmagedden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Sigh. We’re just trying to celebrate our sons. For once in their young lives, we’re trying to celebrate them. These kids weren’t the ones who made life miserable for women all those years ago. They just need something to help them feel good about being a boy. Why is this so hard for people?

Because this crisis for boys is manufactured and amplified by social media and it's a bunch of BS. It's backlash for women and girls asking to be treated with respect and for men and boys to be responsible for their behavior. If everyone just acted like a decent person we'd all be fine. But we have to have something to agonize about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Agreed. OP I know you meant well, and all the young men you saw stepping up should be celebrated. But as you can see, many of us have seen examples of girls, young women and women stepping up too. So maybe celebrate EVERYONE who stepped up, and don't make gendered assumptions that cancel out the good deeds (and as you can see there were many) that girls and women did too in this snowmagedden.

This. Why can't people just talk about being kind and neighborly and not ruin it by bringing in stupid social media culture war BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Sigh. We’re just trying to celebrate our sons. For once in their young lives, we’re trying to celebrate them. These kids weren’t the ones who made life miserable for women all those years ago. They just need something to help them feel good about being a boy. Why is this so hard for people?

Again, where are you living where boys are not feeling good about themselves.

And why is shoveling being a boy?

Everybody was shoveling in the last week, every single solitary human being. It took everybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it is important to point out good things that teams are doing, but in my neighborhood, both girls and boys were out.

Are you saying that in your neighborhood there were no teenage girls shoveling?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s great! Boys need to shovel, take out the trash, help neighbors. Gets them off video games and feeling good about themselves. As a woman who was a former girl right before the wave of “girls are awesome and can do anything”, I get the need to not exclude girls and the desire to make things equal. But as the mom of both a son and a daughter, I see how these efforts have also swung so far in the other direction that revenge and restitution seems to be the point. This doesn’t have to be a zero-sum game and we can absolutely celebrate our sons for stepping up without it automatically meaning we’re excluding our daughters.

Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Sigh. We’re just trying to celebrate our sons. For once in their young lives, we’re trying to celebrate them. These kids weren’t the ones who made life miserable for women all those years ago. They just need something to help them feel good about being a boy. Why is this so hard for people?

Thank you!

You get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m grateful for all the neighbors helping neighbors activity I witnesses. This included sharing shovels pitching in to clear walk clear, get car out, walk the dogs, babysit while parents worked online.

Saw this from all ages and genders. but lots of teens stepping up.

Celebrate kindness!

Agreed. OP I know you meant well, and all the young men you saw stepping up should be celebrated. But as you can see, many of us have seen examples of girls, young women and women stepping up too. So maybe celebrate EVERYONE who stepped up, and don't make gendered assumptions that cancel out the good deeds (and as you can see there were many) that girls and women did too in this snowmagedden.

I have not seen any girls shoveling, and I have been all over the area. I have also spent hours outside shoveling.

I have seen middle aged adult women shoveling.

But the people doing the hard work for their neighbors is almost all teen boys.

Give credit where credit is due.

This time, it's the boys.

If you wasnt to start a thread lauding all the teen girls spending days out breaking ice this past week, please do so.

But stop taking it as a personal affront that otgers want to celebrate that collectively, the boys did something good for their communities

[Anonymous]

Why are some people in this forum just the worst lol.

Girl mom here and I see nothing wrong with celebrating these boys stepping in to help. Sure a few girls did too but it’s what about ism to act like it’s not mostly boys. Physically young men just have the arm and overall body strength to do it without injury or strain and most women/girls cannot. This is biology. I’m glad many stepped up.