Philadelphia soccer coaches convention

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Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

Would have loved to have been there to see how many eyes were rolling and how many were throwing up in their mouths.

But if it were your club coaches you would thought it was the greatest thing ever. Every club in this area operates the same way with the same BS about pathways and player development. No club prioritizes development, they prioritize outside players be use they are new revenue.

Kid already on the bench then here comes outside player to push your kid even further down the bench

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

Would have loved to have been there to see how many eyes were rolling and how many were throwing up in their mouths.

But if it were your club coaches you would thought it was the greatest thing ever. Every club in this area operates the same way with the same BS about pathways and player development. No club prioritizes development, they prioritize outside players be use they are new revenue.

An existing and outside player still pay. If you cut an existing player, then the new player just replaces that revenue.

At our big club, the existing player doesn't leave. They promise the new players the highest or second highest team. The existing player on the second or third team that deserves to move up doesn't move up, but they stay where they are. The don't quit. It is new revenue- especially at the older age groups when they just make teams bigger.

So you are saying less talented outside players are taking slots on top teams when your kid is clearly better than the new players right? Just in the name of revenue right? No chance your kid is not as good right? Define “deserves” in your mind. Clearly better skills, speed, size or is it just longevity in club. We hear this argument all the time, my experience with top team in big club is they are always evaluating performance and potential and moving/adding players to improve the entire teams potential if and when they can find and recruit them. If your club is not time to move on. IMHO.

Your HO is your experience. At my DCs big DMV club no one is ever moved up. Ever. Tryouts are funny, no one even watches. Literally. No one would ever know, or care, if there is a gem on team 2 or 3. And there are, actually. Every club is different but don’t assume merit is rewarded across the board. It’s not.

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Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

Would have loved to have been there to see how many eyes were rolling and how many were throwing up in their mouths.

But if it were your club coaches you would thought it was the greatest thing ever. Every club in this area operates the same way with the same BS about pathways and player development. No club prioritizes development, they prioritize outside players be use they are new revenue.

An existing and outside player still pay. If you cut an existing player, then the new player just replaces that revenue.

At our big club, the existing player doesn't leave. They promise the new players the highest or second highest team. The existing player on the second or third team that deserves to move up doesn't move up, but they stay where they are. The don't quit. It is new revenue- especially at the older age groups when they just make teams bigger.

So you are saying less talented outside players are taking slots on top teams when your kid is clearly better than the new players right? Just in the name of revenue right? No chance your kid is not as good right? Define “deserves” in your mind. Clearly better skills, speed, size or is it just longevity in club. We hear this argument all the time, my experience with top team in big club is they are always evaluating performance and potential and moving/adding players to improve the entire teams potential if and when they can find and recruit them. If your club is not time to move on. IMHO.

Your HO is your experience. At my DCs big DMV club no one is ever moved up. Ever. Tryouts are funny, no one even watches. Literally. No one would ever know, or care, if there is a gem on team 2 or 3. And there are, actually. Every club is different but don’t assume merit is rewarded across the board. It’s not.

Did I sat it was, no. I said if merit was not rewarded or at least recognized why are you still paying good money at that club. Self inflicted dissatisfaction, move on to another experienced club.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

Would have loved to have been there to see how many eyes were rolling and how many were throwing up in their mouths.

But if it were your club coaches you would thought it was the greatest thing ever. Every club in this area operates the same way with the same BS about pathways and player development. No club prioritizes development, they prioritize outside players be use they are new revenue.

An existing and outside player still pay. If you cut an existing player, then the new player just replaces that revenue.

At our big club, the existing player doesn't leave. They promise the new players the highest or second highest team. The existing player on the second or third team that deserves to move up doesn't move up, but they stay where they are. The don't quit. It is new revenue- especially at the older age groups when they just make teams bigger.

So you are saying less talented outside players are taking slots on top teams when your kid is clearly better than the new players right? Just in the name of revenue right? No chance your kid is not as good right? Define “deserves” in your mind. Clearly better skills, speed, size or is it just longevity in club. We hear this argument all the time, my experience with top team in big club is they are always evaluating performance and potential and moving/adding players to improve the entire teams potential if and when they can find and recruit them. If your club is not time to move on. IMHO.

Its not about whether the existing kid is better or deserves to be moved up. You're missing the point. Clubs preach development and pathways but dont actually do it. Rather than try to develop the existing player, they dont. They bring in a new outside player for additional revenue. Sure the existing player can leave but oftentimes they dont because they enjoy playing with their teammates. A club will get more new players than existing players leaving. Its not a one for one.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

Would have loved to have been there to see how many eyes were rolling and how many were throwing up in their mouths.

But if it were your club coaches you would thought it was the greatest thing ever. Every club in this area operates the same way with the same BS about pathways and player development. No club prioritizes development, they prioritize outside players be use they are new revenue.

An existing and outside player still pay. If you cut an existing player, then the new player just replaces that revenue.

At our big club, the existing player doesn't leave. They promise the new players the highest or second highest team. The existing player on the second or third team that deserves to move up doesn't move up, but they stay where they are. The don't quit. It is new revenue- especially at the older age groups when they just make teams bigger.

So you are saying less talented outside players are taking slots on top teams when your kid is clearly better than the new players right? Just in the name of revenue right? No chance your kid is not as good right? Define “deserves” in your mind. Clearly better skills, speed, size or is it just longevity in club. We hear this argument all the time, my experience with top team in big club is they are always evaluating performance and potential and moving/adding players to improve the entire teams potential if and when they can find and recruit them. If your club is not time to move on. IMHO.

Its not about whether the existing kid is better or deserves to be moved up. You're missing the point. Clubs preach development and pathways but dont actually do it. Rather than try to develop the existing player, they dont. They bring in a new outside player for additional revenue. Sure the existing player can leave but oftentimes they dont because they enjoy playing with their teammates. A club will get more new players than existing players leaving. Its not a one for one.

Well, that may be your experience but not mine. You are at the wrong club if that’s what your experience is, quit paying for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You that convention and the whole youth soccer system is in BIG decline When both VRSC and STJ had “presentations”

Can’t make this stuff up!

Need a hug LS coach?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

U ok BP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I looked into OP’s post thinking it was too wild to be true. Turns out it’s actually real, probably two of the biggest charlatan clubs in NoVa presented on the topic below. It’s not satire:

“The session explored how clubs can intentionally shape their identity, align values across programs, and create environments that support long-term growth for players and stakeholders from the youth game through the professional level.”

Can someone explain what that session description is supposed to mean in real world English instead of bureaucratic babble?

Sure. Pay to play doesnt work and development dont align

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Anonymous wrote:Development takes too much work and is resource intensive. It’s easier to cut and bring in. And cheaper. I only wish clubs were honest about that. And the ones who do care are small and can’t compete in the more relevant leagues at older ages, like ROSA or Juventus. Our system is terrible and we all buy into it like sheep for some reason.

Clubs and academies cut players at every level in every age group in every country in the world. Get over yourself.

Yes but the kids dont pay to play or do private training with their academy coach.