MS criteria based lottery results out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is consistently 97-99 percentile on MAP scores but didn’t get in. What a useless county this is - 3 more years of him being bored every day I guess! At least he has compacted math.

MCPS continues to disappoint

Most kids don't get in, it's a lottery with way way more qualifying kids than spaces. Percentile doesn't matter (besides being above the minimum to qualify for the lottery.).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is consistently 97-99 percentile on MAP scores but didn’t get in. What a useless county this is - 3 more years of him being bored every day I guess! At least he has compacted math.

MCPS continues to disappoint

Most kids don't get in, it's a lottery with way way more qualifying kids than spaces. Percentile doesn't matter (besides being above the minimum to qualify for the lottery.).

Not to mention if only percentile mattered, only the 99th would get in so consistent 97-99 wouldn't be sufficient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What scores to qualify for both lotteries?

Depends on how high or low poverty your school is, but for the ones in the middle it's generally around the 85th percentile (higher for low poverty schools, lower for high poverty schools.)

We are not a Title 1 school and my kid got into both Lottie’s with 71 and 72nd percentiles (compacted math and ELA)

Can you check those numbers again? That’s very unlikely to be correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What scores to qualify for both lotteries?

Depends on how high or low poverty your school is, but for the ones in the middle it's generally around the 85th percentile (higher for low poverty schools, lower for high poverty schools.)

We are not a Title 1 school and my kid got into both Lottie’s with 71 and 72nd percentiles (compacted math and ELA)

Can you check those numbers again? That’s very unlikely to be correct.

Could be a kid with an IEP? And/or at a high-poverty school that's not Title 1?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What scores to qualify for both lotteries?

Depends on how high or low poverty your school is, but for the ones in the middle it's generally around the 85th percentile (higher for low poverty schools, lower for high poverty schools.)

We are not a Title 1 school and my kid got into both Lottie’s with 71 and 72nd percentiles (compacted math and ELA)

Can you check those numbers again? That’s very unlikely to be correct.

Could be a kid with an IEP? And/or at a high-poverty school that's not Title 1?

We are high poverty, but not Title 1. My kid gets straight A’s on report cards. In 3rd grade their reading MAP was 50something percentile and they got into the CES lottery pool. That’s when we learned how low the bar is for these programs (and then how little enrichment actually exists at the home school)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is consistently 97-99 percentile on MAP scores but didn’t get in. What a useless county this is - 3 more years of him being bored every day I guess! At least he has compacted math.

MCPS continues to disappoint

Wait and see - lots of kids turned down spots last year and a lot of kids in the pool got offers later. My kid didn't get picked in either initial lottery, but eventually ended up with an offer for TPMS.

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Anonymous wrote:My 5th grader didn’t meet the math criteria, because she scored at the 94th percentile.

Which math test did they take? Compacted math takes the MS MAP and on level math takes the grade 5 math

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Absolutely crazy that a kid who did not take compacted math and took an easier MAP test could get into Takoma Park based on test performance. That is not doing the kid any favors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is consistently 97-99 percentile on MAP scores but didn’t get in. What a useless county this is - 3 more years of him being bored every day I guess! At least he has compacted math.

MCPS continues to disappoint

Presumably your kid is in the lottery for both programs? There is still the possibility of getting in off the waitlist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What scores to qualify for both lotteries?

Depends on how high or low poverty your school is, but for the ones in the middle it's generally around the 85th percentile (higher for low poverty schools, lower for high poverty schools.)

We are not a Title 1 school and my kid got into both Lottie’s with 71 and 72nd percentiles (compacted math and ELA)

Can you check those numbers again? That’s very unlikely to be correct.

Could be a kid with an IEP? And/or at a high-poverty school that's not Title 1?

Even with services you need to be at 70th oercentile to get in. And if kid was not at a high poverty school it’s hard to believe that those percentiles would get a kid in

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What scores to qualify for both lotteries?

Depends on how high or low poverty your school is, but for the ones in the middle it's generally around the 85th percentile (higher for low poverty schools, lower for high poverty schools.)

We are not a Title 1 school and my kid got into both Lottie’s with 71 and 72nd percentiles (compacted math and ELA)

There are like five bands of poverty levels - it’s not binary or based solely on title 1.

[Anonymous]

Honestly if they’re not going to offer accelerated or enriched courses in all subjects at the home schools they should take the kids with the top scores and grades and get rid of the lottery system. What they offer at the home schools is neither comparable nor sufficient for any student who needs above grade level instruction. It is unbelievable to me that they’d take kids with lower scores/demonstrated readiness, and then refuse to meet the needs of the students they don’t have enough seats to accommodate. My own two kids never got off the lottery waiting pool lists and completely languished academically in middle school. Such a missed opportunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly if they’re not going to offer accelerated or enriched courses in all subjects at the home schools they should take the kids with the top scores and grades and get rid of the lottery system. What they offer at the home schools is neither comparable nor sufficient for any student who needs above grade level instruction. It is unbelievable to me that they’d take kids with lower scores/demonstrated readiness, and then refuse to meet the needs of the students they don’t have enough seats to accommodate. My own two kids never got off the lottery waiting pool lists and completely languished academically in middle school. Such a missed opportunity.

Or just cancel the programs. Our home school needs more smart kids with involved parents desperately but we lose so many to those programs, and it really hurts those left behind in terms of peer group and class offerings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly if they’re not going to offer accelerated or enriched courses in all subjects at the home schools they should take the kids with the top scores and grades and get rid of the lottery system. What they offer at the home schools is neither comparable nor sufficient for any student who needs above grade level instruction. It is unbelievable to me that they’d take kids with lower scores/demonstrated readiness, and then refuse to meet the needs of the students they don’t have enough seats to accommodate. My own two kids never got off the lottery waiting pool lists and completely languished academically in middle school. Such a missed opportunity.

They used to. When I was in school TPMS had its own very challenging logic test etc. But then nearly all the kids in magnets were white or Asian and it was not a good look.

[Anonymous]

Can you please help me understand how you get into the lottery pool? My son got 99% on Cogat in 3rd grade + 99% MapM but 85% on MapR. He never got into the lottery for 4/5 grade. He will b in 5 grade next year. Am I supposed to enter him into the lottery pool? School with very low farms rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly if they’re not going to offer accelerated or enriched courses in all subjects at the home schools they should take the kids with the top scores and grades and get rid of the lottery system. What they offer at the home schools is neither comparable nor sufficient for any student who needs above grade level instruction. It is unbelievable to me that they’d take kids with lower scores/demonstrated readiness, and then refuse to meet the needs of the students they don’t have enough seats to accommodate. My own two kids never got off the lottery waiting pool lists and completely languished academically in middle school. Such a missed opportunity.

Or just cancel the programs. Our home school needs more smart kids with involved parents desperately but we lose so many to those programs, and it really hurts those left behind in terms of peer group and class offerings.

Unfortunately canceling the programs isn’t going to make the home schools better. I’m the PP whose kids languished. Our school had more than enough bright students left. It did not make up for the unchallenging curriculum (that literally repeated books from elementary school), teachers unwilling and unable to differentiate, and dumbing down of expectations so that on and below grade level students didn’t completely fail in the mixed ability classrooms. Like playing the entire audio book in class over three weeks every day at the expense of complementary instruction because some students couldn’t or wouldn’t read the book. Closing down the magnet would not have changed any of this at the home school. It just would have deprived every single student of appropriate instruction rather than many.