Withdrawing Apps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

No obligation whatsoever is not correct. Every kid with an acceptance (not just REA) has an obligation to withdraw apps from schools they won’t attend. It’s the obligation of being a good classmate and person.

The issue is that the future can be unpredictable. Kids change their minds, financial situations change, and so on. Unless a kid has enrolled in a school, i.e., paid the deposit, there is no certainty.

Following REA admission, there is no ethical obligation to classmates to withdraw other apps. They have until May 1 to decide. Stop trying to guilt trip kids. They are not stealing a spot from your kid. The highly selective schools where the REA admit might have apps open is going to fill its class eventually - there are not going to be empty seats. Every college admits more students than it has seats for. Yield is less than 100% everywhere and colleges account for this via algorithm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

No obligation whatsoever is not correct. Every kid with an acceptance (not just REA) has an obligation to withdraw apps from schools they won’t attend. It’s the obligation of being a good classmate and person.

The issue is that the future can be unpredictable. Kids change their minds, financial situations change, and so on. Unless a kid has enrolled in a school, i.e., paid the deposit, there is no certainty.

Following REA admission, there is no ethical obligation to classmates to withdraw other apps. They have until May 1 to decide. Stop trying to guilt trip kids. They are not stealing a spot from your kid. The highly selective schools where the REA admit might have apps open is going to fill its class eventually - there are not going to be empty seats. Every college admits more students than it has seats for. Yield is less than 100% everywhere and colleges account for this via algorithm.

They definitely aren’t stealing a spot from my kid because he accepted his SCEA offer.

Everything else you write is bs, our school emails every kid after admittance to their first choice and urges them to withdraw apps from schools that are no longer in consideration.

[Anonymous]

Kids have their own way of dealing with classmates with trophy hunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

No obligation whatsoever is not correct. Every kid with an acceptance (not just REA) has an obligation to withdraw apps from schools they won’t attend. It’s the obligation of being a good classmate and person.

The issue is that the future can be unpredictable. Kids change their minds, financial situations change, and so on. Unless a kid has enrolled in a school, i.e., paid the deposit, there is no certainty.

Following REA admission, there is no ethical obligation to classmates to withdraw other apps. They have until May 1 to decide. Stop trying to guilt trip kids. They are not stealing a spot from your kid. The highly selective schools where the REA admit might have apps open is going to fill its class eventually - there are not going to be empty seats. Every college admits more students than it has seats for. Yield is less than 100% everywhere and colleges account for this via algorithm.

They definitely aren’t stealing a spot from my kid because he accepted his SCEA offer.

Everything else you write is bs, our school emails every kid after admittance to their first choice and urges them to withdraw apps from schools that are no longer in consideration.

SCEA is not ED. That is the whole point of SCEA.

Most high schools do not urge students accepted SCEA to withdraw other apps. You must attend a private that is trying to protect its other students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

No obligation whatsoever is not correct. Every kid with an acceptance (not just REA) has an obligation to withdraw apps from schools they won’t attend. It’s the obligation of being a good classmate and person.

The issue is that the future can be unpredictable. Kids change their minds, financial situations change, and so on. Unless a kid has enrolled in a school, i.e., paid the deposit, there is no certainty.

Following REA admission, there is no ethical obligation to classmates to withdraw other apps. They have until May 1 to decide. Stop trying to guilt trip kids. They are not stealing a spot from your kid. The highly selective schools where the REA admit might have apps open is going to fill its class eventually - there are not going to be empty seats. Every college admits more students than it has seats for. Yield is less than 100% everywhere and colleges account for this via algorithm.

They definitely aren’t stealing a spot from my kid because he accepted his SCEA offer.

Everything else you write is bs, our school emails every kid after admittance to their first choice and urges them to withdraw apps from schools that are no longer in consideration.

Interesting. Our school doesn't send out an email like that. But also our school isn't overly competitive so there aren't kids hoarding Ivy acceptances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

No obligation whatsoever is not correct. Every kid with an acceptance (not just REA) has an obligation to withdraw apps from schools they won’t attend. It’s the obligation of being a good classmate and person.

The issue is that the future can be unpredictable. Kids change their minds, financial situations change, and so on. Unless a kid has enrolled in a school, i.e., paid the deposit, there is no certainty.

Following REA admission, there is no ethical obligation to classmates to withdraw other apps. They have until May 1 to decide. Stop trying to guilt trip kids. They are not stealing a spot from your kid. The highly selective schools where the REA admit might have apps open is going to fill its class eventually - there are not going to be empty seats. Every college admits more students than it has seats for. Yield is less than 100% everywhere and colleges account for this via algorithm.

They definitely aren’t stealing a spot from my kid because he accepted his SCEA offer.

Everything else you write is bs, our school emails every kid after admittance to their first choice and urges them to withdraw apps from schools that are no longer in consideration.

SCEA is not ED. That is the whole point of SCEA.

Most high schools do not urge students accepted SCEA to withdraw other apps. You must attend a private that is trying to protect its other students.

My kids attend a private that tries to limit trophy hunting.

[Anonymous]

How is it trophy hunting to leave your in state option open? The kid is not applying to more Ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If DC received acceptance SCEA to his first choice school, should he withdraw the public school applications he's submitted? The agreement from the SCEA school is that he just needs to reply by May 1, and that he just can't hold places at two schools beyond May 1. The public school applications were submitted before he heard back from the SCEA school. He's 90% sure he'll accept the SCEA offer, but it's still a long time away.

Depends. Is he certain? Did he accept? If and when he accepts, then yes, he should quickly withdraw. If he is still considering other options, then don't withdraw. It would be courteous to withdraw from schools that are no longer in contention though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

Well, thanks, but we're not making decisions on what "feels unkind" to you or anyone else.

Play by the rules, OP. Only an ED acceptance requires withdrawal of other apps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child has no obligation whatsoever to withdraw the others.

My 2c is the kind thing to do would be withdrawing any applications for schools they know they won't be attending for sure. My guess is there are some on that list. I know some students in this boat who aren't withdrawing "just to see whether I'd get in", and to me, that feels unkind to other students who genuinely want to attend those schools.

Well, thanks, but we're not making decisions on what "feels unkind" to you or anyone else.

Play by the rules, OP. Only an ED acceptance requires withdrawal of other apps.

Not saying this isn't "playing by the rules", it's a question of philosophy.

Let's play this out.

A kid gets into an SCEA school (say, Princeton), and has applied to Wisconsin OOS. They know for sure they won't go to Wisconsin but they don't withdraw because it's within the rules.

Their friend/classmate/another kid desperately wants to go to Wisconsin.

Kid 1 gets in. Kid 2 does not.

Even if there's a 0.01% chance that Kid 1 "took" Kid 2's spot, to me, that would feel awful.

Maybe I'm too soft for this whole rat race, but that's how I feel.