IMX

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

I don’t get this. Isn’t it better for the club if everyone who qualifies attend the meet? What am I missing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

I don’t get this. Isn’t it better for the club if everyone who qualifies attend the meet? What am I missing?

It's a fun meet with an interesting format... but it's just another meet and the results don't matter for the club. I'm sure the younger kids are competing somewhere else this month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Each NCAP location chooses their own meets. If your site doesn't go and you want to, bring it up to the coach for next year.

this is what happened to NCAP germantown.. they now no longer NCAP

they transitioned to their own club -- this happens for a number of reasons. coaching philosophy, money, personality conflicts, etc. Not because of meet choices. And certainly not IMX. The bigger meets is when meet selection becomes an issue. Does a club choose Sectionals of ICSA, is the club good enough to be invited to NCSAs, etc.

so tense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Generally not the IMX meet. But in previous years it was the same weekend as Districts for VHSL, so who knows given that it's only a dual meet this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Actually they do not. I have one of those top 14 year olds and they are not attending IMX because of high school meets. They don't need this meet because they have their cuts and serious club swimmers are going to be in the build phase of training - which generally this meet is looked as that.

My kid prioritize club meets but generally does both whenever possible. But IMX is not an important meet and the timing of it is a throw away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Not if they are gunning for HS records and regional and state cuts. Those meets are good racing meets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

I don’t get this. Isn’t it better for the club if everyone who qualifies attend the meet? What am I missing?

Clubs will spread their talent. You also realize that most clubs prize the December meets because that is generally when kids are at their fastest. They have ramped up for three months, tapered, and will drop time. The holidays are a recovery period. They start ramping up again in January (so January is not going to see great times for swimmers). To help with the mental focus January meets tend to be mentally a different game. So a club will attend a distance meet, long course meet, or IMX because it is less about the making cuts but mentally challenging. IMX is about a combined score overall, not killing it in your best events. So these meets are less about the club and more about engaging the swimmer.

Groups can choose different meets to accomplish this. Clubs are building right not for the March meets where swimmers will hopefully drop time. So PVS champs, NCSAs, Sectionals, etc. It is a training cycle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Not if they are gunning for HS records and regional and state cuts. Those meets are good racing meets.

To be fair, the top 14 year old club swimmers already have their regional and state cuts. The IMX meet also only conflicts with dual meets this year which are generally pretty slow. YMMV on this but at least at our particular site there is no one opting out of IMX in favor of HS meets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Not if they are gunning for HS records and regional and state cuts. Those meets are good racing meets.

To be fair, the top 14 year old club swimmers already have their regional and state cuts. The IMX meet also only conflicts with dual meets this year which are generally pretty slow. YMMV on this but at least at our particular site there is no one opting out of IMX in favor of HS meets.

Serious question - what clubs are really pushing IMX. My kids have gone and it was a meh meet. Looking at last year's times 13-14s do not have significant drops but a lot of adds. The 12&U do have drops, but generally every time a little kid swims prepuperty they are improving technique and make drops or they start growing and make huge drops.

We are a top PVS club and IMX is treated very much like an open and not a big deal. I know for the UMD IMX it attracts regional clubs to it and is a great travel meet opportunity - which sadly it is not for the us local teams.

What clubs are really pushing IMX in PVS and Virginia league?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Not if they are gunning for HS records and regional and state cuts. Those meets are good racing meets.

To be fair, the top 14 year old club swimmers already have their regional and state cuts. The IMX meet also only conflicts with dual meets this year which are generally pretty slow. YMMV on this but at least at our particular site there is no one opting out of IMX in favor of HS meets.

Serious question - what clubs are really pushing IMX. My kids have gone and it was a meh meet. Looking at last year's times 13-14s do not have significant drops but a lot of adds. The 12&U do have drops, but generally every time a little kid swims prepuperty they are improving technique and make drops or they start growing and make huge drops.

We are a top PVS club and IMX is treated very much like an open and not a big deal. I know for the UMD IMX it attracts regional clubs to it and is a great travel meet opportunity - which sadly it is not for the us local teams.

What clubs are really pushing IMX in PVS and Virginia league?

In PVS, NCAP and RMSC are the largest clubs that participate. ASA, AAC, OCCS, the Potomac Marlins, and TOLL participate as well. Machine is the best club locally that doesn’t participate. The 13-14 meet is very difficult. On the Saturday they swim the 2 Fly, 2 IM and 2 Breast, which is not a lineup anyone would normally swim in a single day and obviously will result in lots of adds. Our club/site looks at it as a good mental and physical challenge for the 13-14 swimmers leading into March champs season. It’s more part of the heavy January training block than a meet where kids are expected to throw down best times, especially because for the 13-14s this is a distance meet. It’s not a champs meet by any stretch, but it’s a much better benchmark meet than a random HS dual meet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t NCAP send all of its best Age Group kids to the annual IMX meet?

Burke’s Silver 1 group is attending but not their Bronze 1 group. This means only the 13-14 Age group swimmers, not the younger ones.

And many 14 year olds won't go because of HS swim if they're freshmen.

The top 14 year olds will be there because the best club swimmers prioritize club over HS.

Not if they are gunning for HS records and regional and state cuts. Those meets are good racing meets.

To be fair, the top 14 year old club swimmers already have their regional and state cuts. The IMX meet also only conflicts with dual meets this year which are generally pretty slow. YMMV on this but at least at our particular site there is no one opting out of IMX in favor of HS meets.

Serious question - what clubs are really pushing IMX. My kids have gone and it was a meh meet. Looking at last year's times 13-14s do not have significant drops but a lot of adds. The 12&U do have drops, but generally every time a little kid swims prepuperty they are improving technique and make drops or they start growing and make huge drops.

We are a top PVS club and IMX is treated very much like an open and not a big deal. I know for the UMD IMX it attracts regional clubs to it and is a great travel meet opportunity - which sadly it is not for the us local teams.

What clubs are really pushing IMX in PVS and Virginia league?

In PVS, NCAP and RMSC are the largest clubs that participate. ASA, AAC, OCCS, the Potomac Marlins, and TOLL participate as well. Machine is the best club locally that doesn’t participate. The 13-14 meet is very difficult. On the Saturday they swim the 2 Fly, 2 IM and 2 Breast, which is not a lineup anyone would normally swim in a single day and obviously will result in lots of adds. Our club/site looks at it as a good mental and physical challenge for the 13-14 swimmers leading into March champs season. It’s more part of the heavy January training block than a meet where kids are expected to throw down best times, especially because for the 13-14s this is a distance meet. It’s not a champs meet by any stretch, but it’s a much better benchmark meet than a random HS dual meet.

I would agree with this. This is a mental meet and a physical breakdown meet for the 13-14 kids. Not a meet for time drops.

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The shirts this year are a pretty cool design.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shirts this year are a pretty cool design.

Link?