One of the reasons I don't believe in Christianity is because the Jews did not believe in Jesus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God incarnated because He always meant to incarnate. The fact that He had to redeem original sin while doing so was almost a detour.

The point of incarnating was to grow a relationship with each of us before our free will became fixed in the beatific vision. When He created the Angels, a third of them rejected Him and were irretrievably lost to Heaven. This way, He has space to overcome any rejection we might have to His presence without impinging our free will and turning us, effectively, into very advanced puppets.

Whatever you want to believe. But there is no continuity to God's message in the old testament to the new testament for his people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 1947 the bible was rewritten the word Homosexual did not appear in the bible before that.

Religions are cults nothing more nothing less.

+1 million Not to mention the word "homosexual" was mistranslated, AND the person that brought the mistranslation to the attention of the people in charge was agreed with. They just never got around to changing it/fixing it. It changed a lot for a lot of people that cannot only not think for themselves about what is right and wrong, but also a lot of people that have become convinced that just THEIR version of a booze age myth is correct. It has also harmed a lot of people, my family being one of them.

[Anonymous]

The Canaanites didn't believe the early Israelites' religion. So taking Jewish pov as established fact doesn't work, either. It's like the old myth about there being turtles all the way down.

[Anonymous]

Leviticus prohibited anal intercourse man to man. I dont know about Egyptian rules. What is your point related to the absurd assumption in the christian church that God came down to earth as a child turning into a man but failing at convincing the jews he was their messiah? Seems like you are on a different topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Canaanites didn't believe the early Israelites' religion. So taking Jewish pov as established fact doesn't work, either. It's like the old myth about there being turtles all the way down.

God didnt make a covenant with them. They weren't his people. Thats why it makes no sense that God then chose the Romans to be his people.

[Anonymous]

Second, the jews didnt listen to Jesus for the most part. So even though he came as a human it didnt work for God's chosen people

The descendants of Abraham, ie, God's chosen people, aren't physical descendants, but descendants by faith, ie, those who believe in Jesus. That is what Christians believe.

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome a it.

6There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 1947 the bible was rewritten the word Homosexual did not appear in the bible before that.

Religions are cults nothing more nothing less.

+1 million Not to mention the word "homosexual" was mistranslated, AND the person that brought the mistranslation to the attention of the people in charge was agreed with. They just never got around to changing it/fixing it. It changed a lot for a lot of people that cannot only not think for themselves about what is right and wrong, but also a lot of people that have become convinced that just THEIR version of a booze age myth is correct. It has also harmed a lot of people, my family being one of them.

So, you are saying that the Bible verse “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." wasn't in the Bible until 1947?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the early Christians were Jews. The church in Jerusalem was a big deal.

Not in the great scheme of things Jewish. No jew even wrote about Jesus except maybe one one time. Christianity took off when it became part of the Roman religion. Either way, its obvious that God wasnt convincing to the Jews enough to make it worthwhile to their lives and future lives. It was a bust for the people it was intended for.

He didn't come just for the Jews. You people need to take a Bible Study class.

Isaiah 49:6 — New International Version (2011) (NIV)

6 he says:

“It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept.

I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Second, the jews didnt listen to Jesus for the most part. So even though he came as a human it didnt work for God's chosen people

The descendants of Abraham, ie, God's chosen people, aren't physical descendants, but descendants by faith, ie, those who believe in Jesus. That is what Christians believe.

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome a it.

6There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

But in genesis and exodus they clearly were physical descendants. Also the other chapters of the old testament. All people God stayed with on earth with actual lineage connections deapite their flaws. Its a complete switch which both makes no sense that God would change like this and also kind of proves that God sending his son for his chosen people also doesnt make sense because it didnt work. God's chosen people who believed in him didn't believe in his son.

[Anonymous]

The whole story of exodus these people keep going back and forth on whether they believe God or not and God stays with them. God is a tribal God in the old testament and also has other characteristics that Jesus doesnt. Then God changes to a 3 tier God that gives up on the jews and picks different people. There is no real flow from on testament to the other the way Christians act like there is when you look at it from an outside perspective

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the early Christians were Jews. The church in Jerusalem was a big deal.

Not in the great scheme of things Jewish. No jew even wrote about Jesus except maybe one one time. Christianity took off when it became part of the Roman religion. Either way, its obvious that God wasnt convincing to the Jews enough to make it worthwhile to their lives and future lives. It was a bust for the people it was intended for.

He didn't come just for the Jews. You people need to take a Bible Study class.

Isaiah 49:6 — New International Version (2011) (NIV)

6 he says:

“It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept.

I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

But even this one line says the jews will be a light for the gentiles. Not that he will abandon the jews.

[Anonymous]

Also these few lines in Isaiah do not match up with the rest of the old testament. Because these books are written by men at different times. God would not be so callous to choose one group of people and then choose another and abandon the first. These books obviously are written to support whatever is going on in the world at a particular time imagining what God would believe in relative to the believer. The books do not portray a consistent God in behavior, action, or belief group.

[Anonymous]

The jews also do not agree with how Christians interpret Isaiah

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the early Christians were Jews. The church in Jerusalem was a big deal.

Not in the great scheme of things Jewish. No jew even wrote about Jesus except maybe one one time. Christianity took off when it became part of the Roman religion. Either way, its obvious that God wasnt convincing to the Jews enough to make it worthwhile to their lives and future lives. It was a bust for the people it was intended for.

He didn't come just for the Jews. You people need to take a Bible Study class.

Isaiah 49:6 — New International Version (2011) (NIV)

6 he says:

“It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept.

I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

But even this one line says the jews will be a light for the gentiles. Not that he will abandon the jews.

Why would he abandon his chosen people? Christians are supposed to follow the Jews, who are his chosen people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the early Christians were Jews. The church in Jerusalem was a big deal.

Not in the great scheme of things Jewish. No jew even wrote about Jesus except maybe one one time. Christianity took off when it became part of the Roman religion. Either way, its obvious that God wasnt convincing to the Jews enough to make it worthwhile to their lives and future lives. It was a bust for the people it was intended for.

He didn't come just for the Jews. You people need to take a Bible Study class.

Isaiah 49:6 — New International Version (2011) (NIV)

6 he says:

“It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept.

I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

But even this one line says the jews will be a light for the gentiles. Not that he will abandon the jews.

Why would he abandon his chosen people? Christians are supposed to follow the Jews, who are his chosen people.

Exactly. And they dont. So God wasnt successful for the jews or the gentiles.